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Matthew Birt  says:

MotoGP Race Director explains Marc Marquez sanction

Marc Marquez has been warned to show his MotoGP rivals more respect after his involvement in an incident with Repsol Honda teammate Dani Pedrosa at the Motorland Aragon track last month saw him hit with one penalty point. Marquez made the faintest of touches with the back of Pedrosa’s factory RC213V at the previous round while the pair were chasing down...

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cornbowl

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cornbowl says:

The thing is

any rider on the grid, will be concerned about Marquez because they know he's coming by, one way or another, and if things go wrong he's got HRC to administer the punishment to him. His style won't alter, it doesn't need to until it causes a serious crash.

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PaceyCasey

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PaceyCasey says:

Claw

''A lot of fuss over nothing''.

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Really? I doubt you'd take the same stance had you been Dani.  MM is fantastic but the boy has history..........and it's still growing.

Aggression is great when it's controlled. 99% of the time it's someone else who pays for it though. That 'aint right. 

 

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ratchetman

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ratchetman says:

Racing inccident????

Marquez has recieved his penalty but not learned a thing from it. How many more :racing inccidents: has he got to have before some one is seriously injured? 

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supermario

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supermario says:

Utterly ridiculous

The only reason Lorenzo and Pedrosa are crying about Marquez is because he's handing em their arses on a regular basis. If Marquez was third in the championship, they wouldn't give a ****.

 

The contact between Marquez and Pedrosa would never, and did not cause a crash. Infact if anyone is to blame it should be HRC for the poor routing of such a critical cable. Rubbing is racing, and the brief contact between the two riders should never have resulted in the failure of the TC. The system should be far more robust than that.

 

Penalising MM for this minor infraction is ridiculous. If this penalty is consistent, then any rider on the grid can expect the same for the merest contact with another rider. Very wrong.

 

 

 

 

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gaziskwakers

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gaziskwakers says:

The death of common sense

 What a ridiculas thing to do. I have watched motorcycle racing for 30 years at all levels, but this is the strangest decision in years. Smells like a witch hunt to me. Whats wrong Lorenzo and Pedrosa, can't catch the upstart!!

Are we to assume then that any contact whatso ever by any rider will result in a penalty??

The fact that Pedrosa crashed at all is down to Hondas poor positioning of such a crucial wire, had the wire not broken would race direction even have noticed the incident, i doubt it.

As far as Marquez's riding style goes, i think he has calmed down since first riding the moto gp bike. And I hope Lorenzo can remember how irratic and dangerous he was in his first years in the big class.

Maybe they should stop racing and just run moto gp as a time trial.

 

 

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gaziskwakers

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gaziskwakers says:

perspective

 If you want a real racers perspective on contact, read what Shakey Byrne said about Alex Lowes after Assen.

Two honest to goodness racers and sportsmen too.

 

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Ivebeenthehero

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You knock someone off, you score no points

 As an ex racer this is really simple for me - you knock someone off, deliberately or otherwise, you get no points in that race. Bike racing is dangerous enough without making it an increasingly contact sport.

It has to be as clear cut as that - much like certain actions in football require a red card, regardless. If you don't take a hard line, then the temptation to attempt the reckless lunge is too great, particularly if you are the rider with less to loose in a coming together. 

But what do I know as a second generation bike racer.... 

 

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supermario

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supermario says:

Marquez didn't actually knock Pedrosa off

He briefly came into contact with his bike, damaging a cable which caused the traction control to fail. Not the same thing.

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CH987

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CH987 says:

Agree with mario on this one. It was the slightest of contacts, he should not have been able to damage a sensor/cable that the bike is not capable of running without.

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

The bike IS capable of running without TC..

Pedrosa's problem was that if there is a glitch with the system, default mode is full power where the rider has full control.

He didn't notice the warning light and moderate throttle application accordingly..nothing to do with MM.

If Dani hadn't fked up - or the wire hadn't broke and he'd managed to do the job for which he's paid millions - by bringing the bike home to finish, we wouldn't be talking about penalty points or Lorenzo having a humourless sarcastic strop at all.

The week before Aragon, Nakamoto publicly criticised his riders for not starting fast enough allowing JL to escape. Both Repsol pilots were trying hard not to let the same thing happen..shite happens.

We've had more action and racing this season than the previous three put together.

The same miserable bastards are moaning about aggressive riding and ganging up again.

Long live The Pussy Club.

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