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Matthew Birt  says:

Doohan: No doubt Stoner would return at top

Five-time MotoGP world champion Mick Doohan reckons Casey Stoner would have slipped seamlessly back into winning contention had the Australian been returning to racing action in 2014. Stoner retired at the end of 2012 after winning two premier class titles, but he has constantly been linked with a future return. Stoner won’t be racing in MotoGP in 2014, but there are constant...

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

Saturn your gas ring is mis-firing yet again

Confusing adulation with respect. It wasn't until the Terrapin got on that Duke that the dosy GP hacks (with a few exceptions both ways) started to wake up to the fact that 'oh, perhaps this lad was something special'.

Pushy parent syndrome? Hardly. Pure sacrifice on the part of the entire Stoner family. Nobody gets to the top without wanting it badly.

A riding style that is faster Alex? They all have the same style as when Stoner left. Granted Lorenzo has improved a couple of areas. MM is like an amp'ed up version of CS.The rest no visable change. But yeah coming back after time away can never be easier. You're right in the game does march on, which has always been the Terrapin's problem.

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saturn392

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saturn392 says:

Hey Ho Nostro

Respect is 'earned' it doesn't come automatically with success ... for whatever reason (you're the philosopher .. or maybe not) Casey didn't command either adulation or respect .. why ?  That's a speculative question.

Yes nobody gets to the top without wanting it badly and without sacrifice but do you honestly think a young kid as he was when the journey started was really capable of making the decisions that were made.   I don't ... would you take your kids out of school and embark on such a quest?

It's a good job every parent with a competitive kid doesn't go globe-trotting chasing an elusive dream on a whim that he might be successful.   Stoner's quest was successful - he was lucky he had talent enough to make it work  out but you couldn't say that he was a 'happy' bunny though could you?

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

Backpedalling furiously once more Saturn

as is your wont.

It wasn't futile in Stoner's case was it?

Philosophy is for Greeks and ennui suffering Frenchmen. Look where it got them both. Pointless navel gazing. Read 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenence' - that'll put you right off the subject.

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vmax4steve

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vmax4steve says:

Give us a break Firebird, if Stoner developed the bike backwards why on earth would HRC invite him to be their test rider ?  Do you know something that they don't ??

They have a Stoner as a test rider because they know that whatever they design and build he can take it to the edge and show it's true potential without having it specifically tailored to his own needs. Once that is established he can then give feedback either verbally or simply through his data to allow them to fine tune it for the factory riders for whom they have enough data and knowledge of for comparisons of the three riders and their styles.

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saturn392

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saturn392 says:

Backpedalling ?

Not on your Nellie - Saturn is pragmatic and a realist !   Catch me if you can !  I read 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance' written by Robert M. Persig way back in the 70's   it's sold 5 million copies worldwide.  Biggest selling book of philosophy ever!

 It can do two things depending on your mindset      either:-

Put of you off altogether (you)        or

Open an inquisitive mind (me)

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LaughingGas

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LaughingGas says:

I wouldn't take Doohan's comments too seriously. Sounds like he's trying to get under everyone's skin by waving the Ozzy flag.

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

Ha, ha Saturn

You may be condensing, but you're far from fully formed, let alone balanced, wobbling about as you do on an orbit all of your own.

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Firebird3

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Firebird3 says:

Vmax

 There's no doubt that Stoner will wring its neck and see the full potential, but that isn't developing the machine or making it to suit other riders. If he was as good as the orange pantie brigade thinks he is, then he would of got back to back wins.

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vmax4steve

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vmax4steve says:

Firebird

The tyres were changed giving the bike severe chatter and I do believe that he suffered a serious leg injury at Indianapolis while still in contention for the title. In his own words the bike changed from being the best he had ever ridden, on the original Bridgestones in winter testing, to the worst, when they changed them because of allegded safety issues.

And stop thinking orange or yellow panties and put a little logic into your arguments. He walked the title first season on the 800cc RCV and smashed everyone in winter testing previous to the first 1000cc season on a bike built around the tyre Bridgestone developed for the new one litre class. No one was crashing, no tyres were being destroyed and not making the distance, and yet they were changed.

Stoner was still capable of winning with the bike chattering, so was Pedrosa but maybe his lighter weight made it chatter less, who knows, but Stoner once again was back to riding right on the edge to get results where previously on the RCV he could ride within its limits and win comfortably.

Stoner is testing for HRC, both factory and production racer, they (HRC) offered him millions to race on so it seems to me that they know a little bit more than you do about just how good he is and how he changed their fortunes when he joined the factory team. They have the data, and know how to interpret it, you do not.

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Chongmin

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Chongmin says:

Rossi'sdog

Seems some Rossi fanboys can't abide Stoner having handed Rossi his ass on a plate.

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