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Simon Patterson  says:

Ducati confirm move from factory to open class

Ducati have finally announced that they will make the move from factory to open class in 2014, with the team ditching their own electronics software in return for extra fuel, tyres and engine development. The Bologna factory has been experimenting with the option for a number of months, and rumours are circulating the paddock that it was an open class machine...

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Bootlegger

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Bootlegger says:

Hey Wosi

Ducati thread. What the hell do you suggest M1 do? As ever,I'm all ears. To be blunt,I hope Ducati riders 'blunt' the factory boys off the start line into turn 1 on any given occasion. Lets face it,this move is a total game changer within MGP. Ducati's and Gigi's priority prior to Qatar should surely be launch traction and top speed. Let the rest skittle into their respective places. Oh yeah.

Aquarius. Your post was right on the money.....TITLES and it is afterall a team sport. Back to the cricket in Cape Town, in the interim.

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Nostrodamus

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Nostrodamus says:

The odd part of the Japanese argument is

 they want to keep their electronic packages to advance their knowledge and to assist development of road going motorcycles,  yet they're willing to freeze engine development.  I'm actually half surprised Yamaha didn't declare their factory effort open given their wealth of marelli experience and the performance of Espargaro senior.

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

ok Buell

The present bike is still far from being competitive and no doubt being in the open class will help but there is still an awful lot of changes and work to be done.

You've made that statement, now can you give an opinion why?

Dovi is upbeat, he says the current version is the best he's ridden so far. He's not satying he's going to win the title on it, neither has anyone else as far as I know. But maybe they have a better starting point this year than they did last year.

His longer runs in testing were on a par with Bradl and Espargaro, who were quite close to Lorenzo. So maybe there is some justification in hiis optimism as it wasn't just one hot lap to grab a headline, he was virtually as quick as Bradl on his longer runs and Bradl was only bettered on them by Lorenzo and Pedrosa. If the test isn't representative, why were you using Rossi's time to make apoint on another topic. Rossi had to end his long run because of tyre issues which I'd have said was the opposite of positive.

So why does the time set by one bike generate optimism but the time set by another mean nothing?

Wosi - I'll borrow your hankies when you've finished your own blubbing, if there are any left.

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1986vfr750

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1986vfr750 says:

seems like a no brainer

 Im actually a bit surprised as well that Yamaha aren't also going "open" Sweet 24 litres is like the good old days of 990's. As for Ducati, they are a longway back still, though after4 years of devolpment it stands to reason that they are making some progress. I think the new boss is clever by realizing that communication between factory staff and track staff is crucial.By rotating them from the factory to the track will allow for a better understanding of the cause and effect of development, as well. Ducati needs to be able to make changes as things progress so it makes the most sense. Sort of funny that Crutchlow has been dreaming of a "factory ride" for so long, and when he finally gets it, they become a satellite squad. Oh well I guess he can cry about as he counts his millions.

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DaniPedola

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DaniPedola says:

Yeah!

Spot on Bootlegger, spot on Aquarium, TITLES. Of which Casey got two, and while riding in that same period, Vale got two. A sound thrashing there.

To be blunter, I hope Ducati crash and burn.

P.S. Not literally of course. I don't think I could stomach the sanctimonious harping, if god forbid Dovi, or Crutchlow chipped a nail.

 

 

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noddy61

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noddy61 says:

a tenner on the enemy

Ah what's a tenner these days, @200-1 on Dovi could be a lot more come Christmas. A soft tyre to qualify and a hard race tyre that isn't allowing the jap bikes to push to hard in the corners then the Ducatis under steer pdoblems may not be to much of a problem,fuel won't and the engine life wont either. Come on Dovi

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

BHAM..!!

Ducati have blown it wide open..

By choosing to run with 12 engines and 24 litres they have shunned the MSMA and said "it cannot work for us under these rules."

Back in 2012, Burgess & Rossi were promised a new engine that never arrived..they needed the gearbox sprocket in a different place, for geometry and settings to give them more adjustment towards better balance.

This is the main reason Ducati have chosen to go 'Open'..more flexibility to experiment with engine design and unlimited testing.

Dovi has qualified well in the past on soft rubber, but was despondent all last year and miles off in the races..still under-steering and struggling with tyres.

Now Gobby has gone and Gigi is there, things look a bit more promising..but they have to get that engine updated and re-packaged for better weight distribution to help the chassis.

There's also the added bonus of being first dibs in.

Ducati have ported their software over to Marelli, and it seems the new championship spec electronics - limited sensors, less complex and un-adaptive - will have a lot of Corse's input.

Go Ducati.!

What's Casey up to.?

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chrisg011

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chrisg011 says:

Ducati Factory

word is that Dovis fast lap was on a Factory spec, not Open spec bike.
The decision to run Open Spec is to enable development because one lap does not make a season.

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CH987

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CH987 says:

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/200707/1/very-big-open-software-upgrade-not-yet-used.html

It will be interesting to see how this pans out over the season.

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DeGrasse

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DeGrasse says:

All Ducati MotoGP Bikes To Race Under "Open" Rules "Factory option appears to be too restrictive for our needs"

 www.superbikeplanet.com/2014/Feb/140228c.htm

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