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Matthew Birt  says:

Ducati: Dovizioso and Crutchlow happy with Open strategy

Ducati boss Gigi Dall’Igna says he had the unanimous backing of Andrea Dovizioso and Cal Crutchlow when steering the Bologna factory into the new MotoGP class in 2014. Ducati’s desperate need to develop its factory Desmosedici has seen Dall’Igna implement the huge strategy change, with Ducati announcing it would race in the Open category last Friday. A key factor in Dall’Igna’s decision...

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SundayRoast

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SundayRoast says:

Good Call

Gigi is the man and this is a good call. If they get it right, they will be up there fighting.

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saturn392

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saturn392 says:

Once again

The top speed of both factory GP14's is faster than either the RCV214V or the M1.   Doesn't seem to be much wrong with the engine power must be the chassis and weight distribution that needs sorting.

(best ask deGrasse - he sorted a TRX 850 to do 360 degrees round a roundabout sideways in the pissing rain) lol.

 

1. Jorge Lorenzo -    327.3 km/h top speed]
2. Cal Crutchlow  -    333.3
3. Valentino Rossi -  330.3
4. Dani Pedrosa  -     327.3
5. Andrea Dovizio -   334.4

 

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

But what does it prove - if anything?

Look at Rossi's top speed compared to Pedrosa (and Lorenzo)  - and we're constantly having it rammed down our necks about superior Honda power, acceleration, corner exit speed. So how can Rossi be faster than Pedrosa on top speed....

Maybe the Ducatis are getting better drive out of the corner...

Too many variables for conclusions

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jamieg999

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jamieg999 says:

There are too many variables

 I've always thought that "Honda power" is just one of those things people say, a bit like the Ducati reliability fable. There may have been some truth in it once upon a time but not any more. 

If their road bikes are anything to gauge by then they've never chased outright power or speed, the emphasis has always been on usability and drive ability.

I wonder if Pedrosa's lack of mass works against him at high speed, while more energy is used to get Rossi and his M1 to v-max it appears that his rolling mass is able to pull a few more mph than Pedrosa.

I know from experience that, for example, a heavier tyre will accelerate less but be able to keep a higher ultimate speed once achieved.

 

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winger

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winger says:

The wise move was having a major clear out of staff and starting again and the fact that NOW the team and factory actually comunicate with each other and there have been some really good back room guys brought in who stay away from the camera.

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Firebird3

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Firebird3 says:

 Agree with you Winger. It appeared that Ducati never really listened to to rider and this major clearout  of certain staff and the new direction they are going in, is clearly the right move.

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

Firebird  -  how can you honestly believe and say that.

Are you seriously suggesting that Ducati did nothing in response to whatever Rossi said to them?

How many frame changes, swingarm changes, electronic mapping solutions were tried. Moving weight distribution all over the place.

A brand new frame in alloy as per the Japs. Hardly an actual Ducati development solution, they had their CF frame.

Are you really saying that Rossi asked for none of that, it was all forced on him by Preziosi and everything he actually asked for was ignored?

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simoncbr1000rr

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only king casey can tame the duke

 the rest don't have the balls......or in some cases a verjazzel

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Firebird3

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Firebird3 says:

Bulto

No doubt things were changed, but all at the  rate of paint drying. Rossi said himself that it was completely different working with Ducati than with the Japs. Any complaint about the bike was like you had just insulted their mother.

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willc955

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willc955 says:

it's gotta be the shoes

Actually it's the tires, but I was having a flashback to my Air Jordan days.

 

Tires are probably the single biggest factor affecting a racebike, and I've always thought the Desmo's best chance at redemption would come by way of different tires.  Maybe the extra options in the Open class will be the key.  Bringing back the tire wars could achieve this also...isn't that how Ducati had their first successes?  Back when Bridgestone were on their side.

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