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Matthew Birt  says:

Jorge Lorenzo leads Bridgestone tyre test

Spaniard Jorge Lorenzo put his tyre woes in Sepang last week to one side to head the timesheets on the first day of an official Bridgestone test at Phillip Island today. Lorenzo was highly critical of Bridgestone’s new generation 2014 tyres when he slumped to a lowly seventh place in Malaysia last week. He found Bridgestone’s rubber more to his liking in...

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Bob Buttamasangy

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The fastest, high speed drifting and rear wheel steering track around and George is quickest?

What's going on DeGrasshole?

 

 

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

Come on Bob, there's a simple answer

He'd stopped off at KR's ranch on the way over and spent a couple of hours drifting an XR100 at around 30mph.....

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Bultoboy says:

Ducatis going well too

Not a bad time from Cal for his quick lap and on some runs he and Dovi were running very similar times to the Yamahas.

Nothing really conclusive from this test but has to give Ducati more encouragement, as at least they are closer

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jamieg999

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jamieg999 says:

Perhaps it's Kenny Roberts in disguise?

 There's nothing like facts to destroy a sh1t theory, in a perfect world our French buffoon would realise that the yards of tripe he's been spouting were blown out of the water early today but I just know we've underestimated his stupidity and he'll be here before much longer to try to justify reality with more nonsense.

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DeGrasse

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DeGrasse says:

LOL!

 SloMos can't stop themselves, another brain fade...

They are lapping 1.0 to 1.5 sec from last year's best race lap times, 1’29.213 vs 1'28.315 (Lorenzo), 1'28.868 for Rossi in 2013, unlike in Sepang where track records were beaten.

 Bridgestone stated: "It's important to note that lap times today aren't indicative of outright pace, the riders used different test tyres at different stages."

Phillip Island MotoGP test times - Monday (Final) 03 March 2014

Was a no brainer (appart for the SloMos)...

 

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Bob Buttamasangy

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Obviously weren't watching bike racing before this year DeGristle? The conditions of last years PI race were well reported and quite peculiar.

Anyway, why is JL fastest at a track which is reknowned for rewarding a fast, loose style?

Show some credibility and try to answer the question.

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DeGrasse

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DeGrasse says:

Bob Buttamasangy

Obviously you're not listening when people who knows speaks, read again what Bridgestone have to say about it.


Condition has got little to do with it, bikes are faster than last year you can't quantify this way.

What matters is that there is nothing to read in comparing these lap times.

Now those who can't stop themselves from getting noticed by their usual mediocre flame bates should have waited a little. I did. 
:lol:
And yes, sliding bikes past the tyre adherence limit is faster than corner speed only, you're just to slow to know it, Stoner and Marquez are not.

2013 race times:
Marc MARQUEZ SPA Repsol Honda Team HONDA 1'28.108 
Jorge LORENZO SPA Yamaha Factory Racing YAMAHA 1'28.315 

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

Condition has little to do with it...??

Condition has got little to do with it, bikes are faster than last year you can't quantify this way.

Yes De Grasse, they're slower than last year's race times

But what about the variables you say mean nothing? Apart from the 2013 race tyre, they're also using a selection of different tyres, plus it is a different time of the year, different temperatures etc. So, not much point comparing lap times to last year's race. What about the track surface changing? Here's what Rossi said, a lad who know a thing or two about racing Motogp - you know - people who know who speak...

"The surface has another five months more and is already less aggressive than October, which means it will be easier for the tyre and this is good news. Usually the asphalt is very aggressive when it is new and then loses the extra grip and this is constant for six or seven years".

It's fair to say that whilst they may not be pushing for an outright single lap fastest time, it's reasonable to assume that they are pushing very hard to test the tyres. How else do you test tyres to understand how they will perform when used in a race? The whole point of using the world's best riders is to push the tyres to their limits to evaluate the results.

If they weren't doing that, If they weren't lapping as fast as they could, they could just put a bunch of test riders out there.

 

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DeGrasse

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DeGrasse says:

Bultoboy

 Yes they are SLOWER and Bridgestone are saying WHY, we don't need your SloMo analysis and mediocre copycating to figure it out by ourselves.

So spare us your confrontational BS and get off my pubic hair, as opposed to YOU i can READ plain English. Cheers.

Bridgestone stated: "It's important to note that lap times today aren't indicative of outright pace, the riders used different test tyres at different stages."

Phillip Island MotoGP test times - Monday (Final) 03 March 2014


 "lap times today aren't indicative of outright pace" = NOT English enough for you?


Cant figure that track condition + FASTER 2014 bikes doesn't make for 1 second+ difference between their best times and last year's fastest race lap times?

LORENZO J.Yamaha1'29.213 vs Marc MARQUEZ HONDA 1'28.108 2013 Race Fastest Lap 



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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

What a relief

Bridgestone stated: "It's important to note that lap times today aren't indicative of outright pace, the riders used different test tyres at different stages."

Well I'm glad you explained that as I didn't understand it...

Contrary to what you say, you still don't want to actually READ or UNDERSTAND what other people actually write. I didn't say their times were indicative of outright lap times. I didn't say they'd tried for a hot lap. I said:

It's fair to say that whilst they may not be pushing for an outright single lap fastest time, it's reasonable to assume that they are pushing very hard to test the tyres. How else do you test tyres to understand how they will perform when used in a race? The whole point of using the world's best riders is to push the tyres to their limits to evaluate the results.

What do you think is the best way to ride in order to test a new tyre for its reaction over multiple laps? Push hard as they would in a race or do about 15 or so laps at warm up lap pace?

And as put to you in the form of a quote from Rossi, the track surface isn't as grippy as last year. Add in track temperature etc. and it COULD, not DOES, explain lap times.

 

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