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Nov 06

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admin says:

Can the new Africa Twin steal the GS' crown?

Honda is just months away from launching an all-new Africa Twin boasting a 1000cc parallel-twin, and serious off-road potential. But can it really take on the market-dominating BMW R1200GS?

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Sep 09

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Rogerborg says:

Could be a game changer

All of those R1200GS riders who "seriously off road" might both buy it.

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May 08

Posts: 213

SHIVA_ says:

How to beat the GS

make a bike that is way cooler with similar power specs and some of the features of the GS at at least US$4000 to 5000 less, then you got a hit on your hands. otherwise it's a no go! 

if the price is the same as the GS, or even higher, the bikes will not move, case in point Yamaha Super Tenere.

Lexus used to beat the Germans in the US, because they had comparable luxury cars at $20K cheaper pricing.  Of course those days are gone, as Lexus is not what it used to be.

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Mar 10

Posts: 118

MudDoctor says:

KTM already have a bike

with "serious" offroad potential, but still can't compete with BMW, so I'm not sure if Honda will fare any better.

Anyone who's done a BMW offroad skills course knows just how serious a GS can be, so it's frankly not down to a bike's ability, probably more to do with risking £12,000 to £15,000 of one's own money that determines whether an owner will take their BMW offroad.

The KTM 1190 is better offroad than the BMW, no doubt about it, but once you spec one up to similar levelsa, there's nót a huge difference in outlay. In that respect, the Honda Africa Twin will have to be pretty good to match either bike's abilities, then a few grand cheaper to draw in sales.

I had an original Africa Twin back in 1992, and it was surprisingly good offroad, within reason. I took it over the Grampians with my wife on the back, all offroad, so I know from experience what it could do. It was not, however, a great road bike. Good enough for touring, but otherwise just adequate, so I hope that the new one can go one better, and produce a bike that can do both.

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Oct 09

Posts: 222

ruxxy says:


 Being a previous owner of the first Africa Twin myself, there is a huge loyal following of the bike. For all its Dakar posturing and off road pretencies (really, you going to take one of those properly off road?) it is a stunningly capable bike, if a little wheezy up top. All Honda have to do is not throw all that away for the sake of what's "on trend" this year and not try and compete head on with the GS. Oh, and can they price it so all us non football club owners can afford it please?

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May 14

Posts: 1

munsey8 says:

The GS shouldn't have the crown..

Of course it can, the GS doesn't deserve the adventure crown anyway !! KTM are the kings and a new Africa Twin is certainly going to be interesting.

It's sad that the GS is primarily ridden by fair weather riding old men at the weekend  or city workers as a commuter. An absolute waste and the only reason it's so popular is because of Charlie and Ewan. KTM must still be kicking themselves over that.

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Jan 14

Posts: 60

plumbgod says:

 Yeah KTM really dropped a bol***k with that one 

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