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Matthew Birt  says:

Freddie Spencer marvels at Marquez talent

American legend Freddie Spencer says he is not surprised to see Marc Marquez continue his record-breaking exploits in MotoGP, with the Spaniard unbeaten so far in six races in 2014. Marquez smashed many records held by Spencer on his way to capturing a historic maiden premier class world title in 2013, including becoming the youngest rider ever to win the MotoGP...

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supermario

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supermario says:

The engine is a brake

Only a cretin would think otherwise. But don't take my word for it, here's Eugene Laverty, well known 250 GP man turned four stroke racer to explain it...

 

 

Voltcom Suzuki’s Eugene Laverty fell foul of a lack of engine braking in both of today’s World Superbike races at Imola but will test a new strategy at the Italian circuit tomorrow. The Irishman struggled with his corner exit strategy all weekend and says it is the it is the first time he has been well off the pace as the nature of Imola is very stop-start, compared the flowing nature of Phillip Island. “Phillip Island didn’t show any weakness with the bike as you don’t have to brake or accelerate anywhere hard and the engine breaking system is still nowhere near. The other guys are working well with their strategies so we need to catch up,” said Laverty, speaking to bikesportnews.com at the track. “This is the first weekend we have been well off the pace. Corner entry is the problem and corner exit follows it. If you have good corner entry, you get it turned on the throttle and get out. “We have been waiting for something new for it for a little while, now it is here so we will be able to do a lot of work on it in the test tomorrow. There couldn’t be a better place to try it really. “At Aragon, we were unlucky with engine problems on the Saturday but even there we had a bike that was capable of finishing on the podium. In Assen we didn’t really show our cards, and then the rain happened and we know what went on there.” - See more at: http://www.bikesportnews.com/news-detail.cfm?newstitle=Imola-WSBK:-Engine-braking-difficulties-slow-Laverty&newsid=11908#sthash.nr689Uwv.dpuf

 

 

 

 

 

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supermario

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supermario says:

If the engine is not a brake

then why would Laverty complain of problems entering a corner due to a lack of engine braking?

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davefinnerty

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davefinnerty says:

s/m

I get what your saying in that there is a braking effect when you roll off the throttle because of resistance and what not but would you accurately describe the engine as a brake? Semantics I know but would describe the riders knee's and torso as a brake also? Is the fairing a brake, or infact is the whole bike a brake by extension? That seems to be where your going with it

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hello4646

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hello4646 says:

Oh Dear Nostro

 This time you have gone too far!!  Rossi not as talented as DP.  Just so i know, you mean Dani Pedrosa.  Really!!!!!!!!!!  Question for you  Has DP ever won a MotoGP world title.  No (500/800/990)  Let alone 7 of Rossi.

Casey has only got the two tiltes.  Remember 08 Laguna when Rossi shown him how to race a bike.  Broke him that did in 08 = cry baby, cry .  Stoner will never return, too weak.  Lets wait and see how many JL ends up with.  It's going to be a big ask for JL to get another whilst MM is fit and well.  MM i would agree with you. He has taken the sport to a whole new level.  So get over your dislike of Rossi and just face facts MM is better than the lot of them.

But on current standings..  The Terrapin is best of the rest.  He has beaten his team mate 4 from 6 so far.  Not bad for a rider that you say is past it.  

Face facts.  Rossi is a legend, get over it.  That's why he has so many fans around the world.  Lets face it.  The track's would have been very empty if was just left to the Stoner fans to turn up to the GP.  Poor old Nostro, He hates it when the Terrapin shows why he has won so many races and titles.  Check the standings Nostro!!!

Check out the cool pic Nostro.  Arrrrrrr it will bring tears to your eyes!

www.todaysaccheadlines.com/2011/10/fish-its-whats-for-dinner.html

 

 

 

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TheApexTwin

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TheApexTwin says:

Nostro & DaniPed

Thought you two might like to have a theme tune to go with your profiles, check this out (fookin' site won't let me post links, mind):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwfLrfUp8Kw

 You'll have to fight to decide who gets it.

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supermario

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supermario says:

Getting kinda ridiculous there dave

but I think you know that.

 

 

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

Sneaky? Why?

2009 was wet, and as DeGrasse has said Yourgay doesn't like it wet. Except when Kouichi Tsuji is getting friendly with him in parc ferme.

I've seen you claim that because Casey won one race in Laguna, that he was right to reject the new HRC chassis that propelled Dani to his winningest streak in motogp, ever.

What say ye to that Butlo?

As well as the races pointed out by Druids that show Lorenzo is no slouch in the wet, the Mugello 09 wet race was won by Stoner, who was pretty handy in the wet, with Lorenzo just 1s behind. Does that seem the kind of result that someone who can't ride in the wet would achieve? Are you seriously basing an opinion on what DeGrasse has said....

When Pedrosa and Stoner tested the new frame and engine, Stoner liked the engine but felt no benefit with the frame. Pedrosa liked both. In the next race, LS, Stoner destroyed Pedrosa, so it's difficult to see how any armchair idiot can say he was wrong not to use the new chassis. Wosi is fond of using Nakamoto's opinion that Stoner should have used the new chassis and given it more time to realise the benefit. How someone who couldn't get within a minute of a Motogp rider's laptime can give that opinion of a chassis I've no idea. Funny how Wosi chooses to believe Nakamoto when he wants to, but lables him a untrustworthy liar when he doesn't.

Pedrosa's winning streak didn't start until Stoner was out with injury from Indy. Anyone who tries to claim he crashed because he was using the old chassis is speculating out of their arse. Many riders crashed there that weekend. Stoner had a couple of tentative races when he returned and then did his usual demolition job in PI presumably still using the old chassis. We'll never know just how many races Pedrosa would have won had Stoner not been injured. He was capable of winning against Stoner, no doubt, but whether he would have won the same number, we'll never know.

There is not one tangible fact anywhere at all that backs up anyone's claim that Stoner was wrong not to use the new chassis. Only he knew what he felt between the two and which he felt more comfortable with.

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

There is not one tangible fact anywhere at all that backs up anyone's claim that Stoner was wrong not to use the new chassis..

Really?

This what the boss of HRC had to say..as opposed to Bulto, a blinkered Stoner fanboy.



Changing the front tire spec mid-season also presented some problems for you?

Nakamoto: Traditionally, Hondas have not been famous for their cornering—it’s been the horsepower we get from our engines that makes us competitive. But when Bridgestone became sole supplier, the focus shifted greatly to getting all the performance you could out of the tires. In other words, we now need to build the bike to match the tires.

How will the bike flex? How will tire performance degrade as the tires wear? So naturally a change in the tires mid-season now requires us to make major modifications.

We could continue using the old hard construction front tires in the first part of the season, until Round Five in Catalunya, but from the England GP onward everyone had to switch to the new soft construction front tires.

By Round Seven in Holland we had managed to put together a new frame prototype adapted to the new tire, and Dani liked the new bike as soon as he started using it.

We tried out the new engine in this new frame at the test after Round Nine in Italy, in effect a practical test of the 2013 prototype.

Dani was most impressed and switched to this new machine from Laguna Seca (Round 10). Casey also liked the new engine, but didn’t feel that the new frame changed things much, so he kept using the old frame with the new engine fitted.

We introduced the 2013 design mid way through the season in order to improve stability during deceleration through changes to the engine, and to improve cornering with the new chassis. As you can see, in today’s MotoGP, building the bike to match the tires is a key factor.

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

followed by..

What about Casey Stoner’s retirement, and what you thought of his racing in his final year?

Nakamoto: Casey told us (in 2011) that he wanted to retire. It was after he won the Australian GP to secure the championship. He still had one more year to run on his contract with us, so he said he would ride for Honda in 2012, but it was quite a shock to hear he wanted to retire.

Ever since the season began, he kept saying he wanted to make his decision public. Naturally, we really wanted him to continue with us and repeatedly tried to persuade him to reconsider, but Casey’s mind was made up.

 It was at Round Four in France that he finally got his way and held a press conference to announce his plans. I was OK with that, since I thought it would motivate him to win his final championship and retire in a blaze of glory.

When Casey has confidence in himself and takes each race steadily, there is no other rider who can beat his speed. But then we had that crash in the final lap of Round Eight in Germany, and all our plans went out the window.

In that race, he didn’t even need to win—finishing behind Dani would have been good enough. It was impatience that led to his crash and a no-point race result. And this led to his behavior at the following GP in Italy—he couldn’t calm down and get his set-up done properly, and rode a poor race to finish eighth which knocked him right back in the championship points table.

If only he had finished properly in Germany, he would likely have ridden as steadily as usual in the following races and possibly would have escaped injury in Round 11 at Indianapolis.

When it came to choosing his bike too, while Dani was full of praise for the new chassis, Casey reckoned it wasn’t much different and stuck with the older one.

It wasn’t just Dani—Stefan liked the new chassis and used it for the final GP at Valencia, and when Alvaro tried it in the post-season test he also declared it excellent.

Now that I think on it, pushing Casey to test the new bike after the Italy GP was maybe a mistake. I guess I should have waited a bit longer until he had regained his composure. If I’d waited, he might have been able to see things clearer and appreciate the quality of new bike.


Dani averages 2.5 wins a season since 2006..taking out 2012.

2012 he won 7 races..6 of them AFTER he took the new frame Stoner rejected.


There is not one tangible fact anywhere at all that backs up anyone's claim that Stoner was wrong not to use the new chassis...says Bulto

No surprises there then..

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

Like I said Wosi

You need to get over it, no-one is intereted in this anymore

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