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Matthew Birt  says:

Rossi and Lorenzo test 2015 Yamaha motor

Valentino Rossi and Jorge Lorenzo got their first chance to test a 2015-spec factory Yamaha engine during today’s post race test session at the Catalunya track near Barcelona. Next year’s motor was one of a range of test items that the pair evaluated today, including a new Akrapovic exhaust which they could both race at the next race in Assen later...

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wosihound

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wosihound says:

Rossi & Lorenzo..

..sounds more natural than Lorenzo & Rossi, doesn't it?

Old Jorge seems to be relying on his laptop geeks a bit too much, rather than adapting.

2016 is looming..corner-by-corner strategies and big edge grip tyres will be a thing of the past..

What's he gonna do..?

Will he be able to cope..?


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DaniPedola

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DaniPedola says:

"It means better control with the throttle from the bottom which is very important. I like it because the connection is very good and it easier to control the bike.”

This is one of the things Yorge was complaining about early season, yet he doesn't like the new exhaust. Doesn't like the new engine either, nor did he like the new chassis.

He seems a little negative.

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

big edge grip tyres will be a thing of the past..

What makes you say that?

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

Old Jorge seems to be relying on his laptop geeks a bit too much, rather than adapting.

That's the thing with most riders though, isn't it? Wanting the bike to suit them. Last year Rossi couldn't adapt, used his laptop geeks as well as turning the bike inside out looking for solutions which he couldn't find. Lorenzo won 7 or 8 races.

This year, either something they've done with the bike or maybe just the new tyres suit Rossi more and Lorenzo is struggling to get it set up how he likes.

How the 2016 regs and new tyres will suit any of them is yet to be seen and a long way off

 

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RidgeRacerHRC

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for flo to win

 he needs all the advantages, best top speed, best chassis, best electronics and tires to his liking. 

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DeGrasse

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DeGrasse says:

You two boyz should go back to primary.

Rossi said: “We started to work for next year with a different engine that has more power but the bike is more difficult to control. I want more power but with the bike easier to ride. It has more power at the top and when you go full throttle the bike moves more, so is more difficult to control. So we have a small advantage but you have to fight more with the bike. We need to keep the advantage but have the engine smoother. This is the target but it is for next year."

Spaniard Lorenzo, who missed the podium for the fifth time in seven races in a classic Catalunya tussle yesterday, said: “We tried an engine that is for 2015 that for the moment is not better. It is a little bit more nervous.”

 

Now we can tell who is squeezing the throttle more than the other to test the chassis and who doesn't bother with it because his settings means he has no control on the bike when it is nervous and too much corner speed to ride it on the gas.

 

Bultoboy: correction, since 2011 NOT a single No2 at Yamaha Racing could adapt, reason for Yamaha to say they were NOT interested by a bike no one else could win on and change it this year.

As opposed to Lorenzo, Rossi CAN develop a winning bike rideable by other pilots, which is why development goes his way.

"This is the target but it is for next year."

Good one.


RidgeRacerHRC: Why wouldn't he? After all most advantages are in the RC side at the moment.

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DeGrasse

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DeGrasse says:

Ten Quotes: Valentino Rossi

9) "The difference was that Marc and Dani were able to stress the rear tire less.

I was fast at the beginning of the race with the fresh tire. After some laps, the tire made a step, but I could stay in 1:42.8, and I hoped to go like this to the end.

Unfortunately, in the last lap, I lost another bit of grip and stability. That made it more difficult to stop the bike. I braked quite deep, but Dani and Marc were able to brake a little bit deeper.

Apart for this "little" detail, it is NOT obvious that the rear-wheel biased weight distribution is causing the M1 to loose on the brakes since 2011 and still with the revised 2014 chassis, uses its tyres in a less efficient way than the RC.

www.cycleworld.com/2014/06/16/movistar-yamaha-motogp-rider-valentino-rossi-ten-quotes-about-racing-at-catalunya/

Which is funny talking about the rear, when i keep sayting that another good aspect of sliding a bike (due to chassis geometry and weight distribution) is lower tyre wear, because of lower abrasion than under load.

Expect Dr Bonk to lecture us on Freudian Repression sooner than later...

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

DeGrasse

You put the exact same post on the opther topic DeGrasse. Look at the lap times. Rossi's tyres didn't go off at the end, his last three laps were the same as his earlier laps to a few hundreths. His last lap was faster than Marquez'z.

They were just faster, fractionally, but just enough.

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

And once again

We can see who is twisting facts to suit their own agends

 

Now we can tell who is squeezing the throttle more than the other to test the chassis and who doesn't bother with it because his settings means he has no control on the bike when it is nervous and too much corner speed to ride it on the gas.

They both say the same thing, they both tried the engine and came to the same conclusion. Yet you tell us that Lorenzo isn't squeezing the throttle hard enough to test it properly, even though he finished 7/10ths faster.

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

Really DeGrasse?

As opposed to Lorenzo, Rossi CAN develop a winning bike rideable by other pilots, which is why development goes his way.

Exactly who won on the bike between 2004 and 2007?

It was only when Lorenzo arrived that a number 2 rider won on it

Rossi, like any other rider, doesn't give a **** if anyone else can ride it, they just want the bike as they want it

Stop talking garbage

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