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Liam Marsden  says:

Brno MotoGP: Marquez takes pole

Reigning champion Marc Marquez set a best time of 1'55.585 to secure pole position at the Brno circuit. Marquez will be joined on the front row by the Ducati duo of Andrea Dovizioso in second and Andrea Iannone in third on the satelitte Ducati. Fresh from re-signing with Tech 3 Yamaha, Bradley Smith put in a late fast lap to head the...

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Bultoboy

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Bultoboy says:

a RC would build it up faster and turn-in,

So says DeGrasse

So I'm wondering why Bautista had the same crash as Rossi on an 'RC'.

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doohanfan

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doohanfan says:

if it comes to it

De G
whilst not ending up being of much every day relevance to my career path my ability and understanding in regard to both mathematics and physics was  not poor in my youth, and fairly provably so, and entirely likely to have exceeded yours as  my understanding of the principles of logical argument so obviously does.

If you wish to argue that you have superior technical expertise to a degree which invalidates my opinions and observations, I could if I wished argue that it is quite likely that I am smarter than you. Thus nature balances.

I wouldn't have thought JB was the guy to quote to support your case btw, he was basically sacked last year for losing faith in Valentino, wrongly (in terms of the loss of faith)  I thought at the time as this year has proved. His main comments in regard to Jorge's set-up was that it was unusual and didn't or wouldn't work for Valentino, not that it didn't work for Jorge, which he wouldn't have said, as an empiricist himself, since it obviously did work for Jorge. Stoner reputedly set-up  the Ducati when he first got there in a way considered highly unusual by the experienced Ducati technical staff/crew, it just so happened that his unique (at that time) riding style, and unusual set-up worked with the bike while more conventional set-ups and riding styles employed by numerous other riders didn't. Empiricism again.

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DeGrasse

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DeGrasse says:

Doodoofart. ZIP IT. Another demonstratino of you being an ignorant reality denyier polluting this forum with psychopatic stalker's nonsense.

Pedrosa EASY in FRONT of Lorenzo, after taking the RC 45% lean angle with the rear wheel up and you still argue, troll?

BVGGER OFF!

Buttfarce: Perhaps you're wondering WHY he's got a satellite bike too?

What a bunch of retards...

Results: ONE RC in front, Marquez with traction issues (the oly reason he got beaten today) two Yamaha BEHIND a HONDA. Apart for that the Lorenzo style and development path since 2011 have paid off.

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DeGrasse

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DeGrasse says:

Question the SloMos doesn't want to answer...

So how do you get a chassis with a bias on the rear wheel optimised for corner speed to build heat on the front tyre as fast as the RC?

Answer: YOU CAN'T. EVEN WITH A SOFTER TYRE A WELL RIDEN RC STILL WINS.

If Marquez havent got some grip issues obviously it would have been a Honda one-two, and Rossi didn't have chatter issues with the front but GRIP issues limiting his pace and performances on the brakes, as we've seen during FP4.

VERY MUCH THE SAME AS FOR THE TOPICS OF GRIP, USE OF FOOT PEG FOR STEERING, GRIP, HOW MANY SECTORS IN A TURN AND THE REST OF IT.

ASK THEM TO ELABORATE ON HOW MUCH "MY OPINION" IS WRONG IN TECHNICAL TERMS AND THE PSEUDO-EDUCATED GP2 SPECIALISTS GOES BALLISTIC WITH PSYCHOPATIC B-S.

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DeGrasse

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DeGrasse says:

thestig08

Less balls than English here have we?

 

So how do you get a chassis with a bias on the rear wheel optimised for corner speed to build heat on the front tyre as fast as the RC?

 

 

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doohanfan

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doohanfan says:

as Nostrodamus also says

when Rossi or anyone else other than Lorenzo starts winning races against the HRC bikes then you might have a case De Grasse, and some justification for criticising Lorenzo's excellent results in the previous 5 years.

No doubt as I have said that Rossi is better than Lorenzo for both performance at his peak and obviously even more so for longevity, but 1 year does not negate the rest of Lorenzo's career just  as last year's results with equipment which didn't suit him at a relatively late stage in his career didn't negate Rossi's previous results. Lorenzo hasn't exactly looked to be in a permanent decline in the last 3 races anyway; his performance is improving which is rather against all your predictions.

Your opinion is wrong because it is inconsistent with reality ie Jorge Lorenzo's results for the 5 years prior to this one. You say his method doesn't and can't work; without even getting into whether  you are correct about what constitutes his method, it palpably can and has worked, however much you might wish to theorise otherwise.
 

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DeGrasse

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DeGrasse says:

Doodoofart. When you'll have some serious I.Q boost.

As to realise that you know fcuk-all about it and that it shows every single time you post, perhaps you will comprehend a 10th of what is happening on screen for the time being you're just a fat mouthed troll with nothing to back up your IGNORANT opinion.

 

So how do you get a chassis with a bias on the rear wheel optimised for corner speed to build heat on the front tyre as fast as the RC?

Go get your Lorenzo's replica tutu now, boy.

http://configurationdancetheatre.org/wp-content/gallery/3/little-ballerina.jpg

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doohanfan

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doohanfan says:

how do you win

31 premier class races and 2 premier class world championships with a style that doesn't work? And is the moon made of green cheese?

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DeGrasse

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DeGrasse says:

Apart for that it's NOT onvious at EVERY race

That the Honda has a better front end, Lorenzo complains of chatter?

How come? Ever experienced chatter on corner speed SloMos?

Rossi looses it on the brakes when he is one of the best in the world at this game?

No relation with front end and weight distribution of course...

Somebody gives these guys an Evo Brain Pill sandwich and some time on a REAL bike!

Doodoofart: Who gives a fcuk your fuzzy maths? Not bringing any titles or statistics other than these on the table are we?
Stoner injury? Nope, Pedrosa being faster all year? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPE.

Here some your result, not ONE victory for your favourite ballerine and full monthy for Honda.

And BTW, Stoner is still ahead of Lorenzo when it comes to start/wins stats, with a gap increasing.

Too complex for you is it? Well tutu-boy, it's not too complex for Yamaha racing because they decided to change the chassis from last year.

Get a BRAIN SCAN.

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doohanfan

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doohanfan says:

your underlying assumption

is now revealed. Only Lorenzo can make mistakes, both in his general approach and in almost all specific instances. Rossi can't, or have anything else untoward happen to him, such as an irregularity in the track, oil or other materials on the track, a tyre problem, etc. You have unique and infallible insight into every occurrence in gp bike racing, in a race or in FP4 or any other session, apparently gleaned from trackdays at Donnington in the 1970s,  even though your knowledge of or recollection of that track seems to be hazy as others have pointed out.

What don't you understand about them changing the tyres this year to tyres with lower edge grip De Grasse? Honda changed their chassis in 2012 when the the tyres and weight limit were changed; the previous chassis had worked rather well with the previous tyres and weight limit in pre-season testing prior to the 2012 season. Circumstances alter cases.

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