More ammo to make better deals

Published: 28 April 2004

There are often large differences between the price on the screen and the price you could pay. But just how much difference should you be aiming for?

The only true and accurate reflection of the prices people pay is in real examples from real buyers. And that’s exactly what we list below.

We’re compiling your deals and delivering regular updates so you’ll know the real price real riders are paying right now. Don’t buy a bike until you’ve read the following.

And if you want to join in, simply e-mail us with the details listed at the end of this article.

Neil Suffolk bought a 2004 Yamaha R1 in Red/Black in South London. He paid £9399 with GAP insurance - £298 plus Datatool Cat 1 alarm - £299. He said: " No other extras, and none were offered FOC." Graham Cartwright, 50, bought a 2004 Yamaha R1 in York for £8600. He got no extras and paid £200 for a Meta alarm. John W, in the midlands picked up a brand new 2004 R1, UK bike on April 27. Retail £9399, he paid £8899 including a year’s tax, first service and Datatag. " What a bike. Only running it in at the moment but the rush is unbelievable. "

Jennie Rigg has just bought a Honda CBR125R, this year's model,for £1950 in Yorkshire. It has Smartwater, crash bungs, and is an official UK bike. Technically it's second-hand, as somebody bought it then decided they didn't want it. It had 17.1 miles on the clock when I got it... But at nearly 20% off list price (£2350) onthe fastest selling bike this year so far,she says she’s not going to complain.

Ian Preston (44) bought a July 03 Honda VFR 800 VTEC ABS in

March for £6595. It had only 1500 miles on the clock, was in perfect condition

with heated grips and is a full UK spec bike. He bought it from a

dealership (non Honda) in Slough after picking up the details on the

internet, the only other benefit was a free tank protector.

Richard Holt purchased a brand new SV650S K3 in Candy Copper (Rusty colour) in Berkshire for £4295. He had a Datatool system 3 fitted for free and it came as standard with Alpha dot security.

Lucy Callear, 20, bought an 04 plate Suzuki SV650S in Yorkshire for £4100. She got crash mushrooms, restrictor kit and fitting thrown in. Mark Harrison, 26, also picked up a brand new Suzuki SV650S in Lancashire but paid £4200. He also managed to get 10% off his clothing. Rick Pace bought a Suzuki SV650S K3 brand new SP04 plate from a Scottish dealer for £4000 with a free tank protector and 10% off lower fairings and hugger, and mushrooms etc. Rick, 33, bought an SV650S K3 Registered Nov 03 53' plate with

300miles on the clock. It was in A1 mint showroom condition with Datatool sys3, Alpha dot, Abus disc lock, Mother chain, helmet, gloves, and all for £3550 cash,

Rob Smith bought a new SuzukiSV1000S in silver from a Bucks official dealer last August. He paid £5600 but got £3000 for his 99 CBR600 FX as a trade in. He also got 12 months tax, 12 months AA cover, Labour free first service and Smartwater.

Mark Hussey picked up a brand new unregistered 2003 Honda CBR600RR from an official Honda dealership. He haggled it down to £6000 and got crash bungs thrown in along with the standard 2 year warranty, AA cover and Smartwater.

Gareth Willmore, 19, from North Yorks bought a CBR600RR – 4 (UK)(list price £7300) for £5200 plus his 2002 Aprilia RS125. Included in the deal was a £160.99 seat pod, an £80 Oxford bag and a £9.99 tank protector. Chris Hughes, 20, bought an X reg CBR600 FY. It was listed at £4300 but he got it for £4200 included a lock and chain. It’s an official bike from a Bucks dealer. Merlin Wrightson bought an official UK ’04 CBR600RR from a Wiltshire dealer for £6750 otr (list is £7299). You also got a free tank protector and the 1st service completely free (parts & labour) as the bike wasn’t ready when he turned up to collect. Shawn Wood, 29, bought a 2004 Honda CBR600RR. List price was £7,299 but he only paid £6800 on the road and got a disc lock thrown in.

Steve Stuchbery, 39, bought a 1999 S reg Suzuki GSX-R 600 from a South Yorks dealer for £2950 with 12 month T&T, new rear Bridgestone tyre and new HJC helmet. Richard Howell, 36, bought a new official GSX-R600K3 for £4995 from a Welsh dealer. He paid cash. The list price was £6849 or there about.

David Wilmot got a new Suzuki GSXR-600 K3 for £4950 in Lancashire. He got Alpha dot and first service included in the deal.

Geo Hollas bought a GSX-R750 K4 for £6795 otr from a Scottish dealer. He said: "I was planning to buy a GSX-R600K4 but when I was quoted only £6250 for the 600 (without haggling), I decided to ask about the 750 and at that price I couldn't refuse." Steve Reynolds, 31, bought a 2004 model GSX-R750 for £7100 (its list is £7699). It’s a UK model sourced in Devon. Warren Gill, 37, bought a Suzuki GSX-R750 for £6550 including a Laserline 862 alarm. He got £3750 for his 3yr old Honda CBR600F with 9700miles on the clock.

Dave Pollen bought an official import pre-registered K3 GSX-R1000 from a Wiltshire dealer in blue and white for £6900. It came with Datatag and alphadot included and he got £4700 for his 2001 R1 as a trade-in. Phil Dufour 37, bought a new GSX-R1000K4 in blue/white from a uk franchise dealer for £7795.

Geoff Dodsworth, 38, got a Suzuki GSX-R1000 K4 in Yorkshire for £7799 including a Meta alarm, that's £750 off list price plus a £275 alarm

Roy Gibbs bought an official UKCBR1000RR 04.MRP price is £8799, he paid £8450 for the bike with Smartwater, two-year warranty and a tank pad thrown in.. He also got new one piece leathers with £100 off. Mike McGowan pre-ordered a 2004 Honda CBR1000 Fireblade (list £8700) UK model from a West Sussex dealer. He paid £8300 with Smart Water and two years AA assistance. Because the delivery got delayed he got 10% off any accessories or clothing He bought.

Alex Groves, 29, bought a Honda CBR954RR Fireblade - 2004 (04) registered (23 days old) from an official UK Honda dealer in south London. It was used with just 340 miles on the clock and a double bubble screen. It came complete with a full two-year warranty, AA cover. List price was £8600, he paid £6795 (the original buyer paid £7,200).

Dave Carne, 48, bought an SP-2 from an official East Anglian dealer for £8595. His alarm set him back an extra £300. Dave reckons he also got a very good deal from Honda insurance, saving himself £200 over his previous company.

Roger Patrick, 40, paid the asking price of £2199 for his 1994 official import RF900RR. The Hampshire dealer gave him a one month parts and labour warranty.

Ian Hitt, 38, bought an official 2004 YZF R6 from a West Sussex dealer for £6850 versus the list of £7499. He added an Arrow pipe which was fitted for free and he got a morning's Advanced Riding Tuition. The bike is an official UK model.

Anne Ramage bought a February 2004 pre registered silver Triumph Speed Triple with zero miles and Triumph screen for £5799. List price is £7499

’Graham’ bought an 03 Daytona 955i with 2500 miles on and 11 months old for £5500. Bought privately. Similar bikes advertised with dealers in MCN were being offered for £6000-£6400.

Chris Roughneen, 28, bought Triumph Speed Four for the full list price of £5350 but got rad cowls, bellypan, a rear hugger and Cat 1 alarm thrown in at a Lancashire official dealer.

Aron Burghart bought a 2004 Triumph Daytona 600 in Nottingham for £6000. List price is £6399 otr. He traded in his 2001 Harley-Davidson Sportster 883 XLH (with Stage 1 and re-bored to 1200) with 13k on the clock) for it and only had to put in £1900 cash.

Michael Anderson bought a 2004 Aprilia RSV Mille R in London for £8495. He couldn't get anything off the price but got a Scottoiler and crash bungs thrown in.

Kevin Maskrey, 41, from South Yorks bought a 2001 Y reg Mille R with 3500 miles on the clock FSH mint condition HPI clear for £5750 privately.

Chris Dickey picked up an 04 Aprilia Factory for £8600 otr. No extra bits I was told that Aprilia had just raised the price of it to £10,995 because demand was exceeding production. The bike is an official not parallel. bought from a dealer in Cambs. Richard High-Stevenson, 35, bought an Aprilia RSV Mille year 2000 W plate for £4300 with 13,000 miles on the clock. He didn't get the price reduced but got the 12,000 mile service done in the price. He bought the bike in the midlands. " The biggest bonus is the insurance for fully comprehensive is only £340 with legal and Euro cover for 90 days. Result me thinks, " said Richard.

Mat Wilkinson bought a brand new 03 Aprillia SL1000 (Black frame) for the first of March - 04 plate. It’s an official bike bought in the Stoke area. List price was £6499. He paid £5490 including Datatool system 3, Datatag, 12 Months Tax and 3 years warranty.

Phil Denny, from Cumbria, bought an Aprilia Tuono for £6400. The list price is £7499.

Jon Marsh bought a 2004 Aprilia Tuono Fighter in Lancashire for £7200 otr with a DataTool system3 alarm. Retail was £7595 + otr without the alarm.

Brian Stubbs, 45, bought an Aprilia Tuono Racing 2003 model in Dec 03. It’s an official UK bike from an Aprilia dealer in the North West. List price was £11,500, he paid £8700 including free first service.

Jason Budd 28 got a brand new Aprilia RS125 GP in Hertfordshire for £3400 otr. He managed to get £200 off and 15% off any accessories he bought. Roger Lyon managed to get an £800 trade-in on his Y-reg Peugeot Speedfight 100 to afford his 2004 Aprilia RS125 GP1 at £3672 at a dealers in Gloucestershire.

Martin Keable, 36, bought a 2002 Ducati Monster S4 in Buckinghamshire for £4800. When he started looking there were several bikes priced just shy of £6000. But he found one reduced from £5999 to £4999 and haggled it down to £4800 with 12-month warranty (£500max claim) and 10% off the bike kit he bought that weekend.

Andy Thompson recently bought a 1999 Ducati 916 SennaIII after looking for one for months, his mate bought his old 1997 916 from him. So it was a cash deal. He bought it officially from a Scottish Ducati dealer. They put new belts on it and gave it a full service and also gave him one years warranty. It has less than 4000miles on the clock. He paid £6300.

Andy Sixsmith, 40, bought a new Suzuki GSX1400K3 in Cambridgeshire for £5195 otr. It's a parallel import with no extras thrown in but he got a good price for his Daytona 900, he says. The dealer delivered the bike to Unit Sidecars in Essex to have a Watsonian GP700 Sidecar fitted and all the work was finished a week ahead of schedule. Total cost, including additional trailer, £11,500

Matthew Williams, 25, bought a new official Kawasaki ZX-6R from a South West dealer. The list price was £7250 but because it was a 2003 model (only a sticker change for 2004) the dealer sold was listing it at £6250. He paid £5900. Euan Clapperton, bought a new, unregistered Kawasaki ZX-6R 2003 model for £5800 on the road, seat hump thrown in for free, a Scottish dealer.

Spencer Gibbens has just got a 9000-mile, mint condition Kawasaki ZX7-R P3 (1998) for £3499. Apparently it’s never been out in the wet, and he managed to get a £2700 trade-in for his old 2001 Honda Hornet 600

Bill Davis traded in his Kawasaki ZX-9 for a 2004 ZX-10R. The bike was £8550 and he got £3000 for the ZX-9. There wasn't room to haggle much but he got Datatag thrown in.

Carl Parry saw a 1997 R reg ZX-9R B4 model advertised for £2500 mot jan05 tax 09 9500 miles very clean example, hpi clean. He paid £2100 for it on a private sale.

Nev Dean bought a 2004 Kawasaki Z1000 for £6999 otr. The list price is £7399 otr

Rod Wallace bought a ZR7-S registered 2004. List price was £4500. He paid £3999 and had his Scottoiler, Datatag and Givi panniers fitted at cost price with no labour charges. He did his deal at an official Scottish dealer.

Derek Sylvester, 35, bought a 2004 official Yamaha FJR1300 ABS in Galaxy Blue with Datatag kit, Yamaha Inner bags for panniers and official Yamaha heated grips for £9950. List prices are: £10600 (bike) + £50 (Datatag) + £50 (inner bags) + £175 (grips) = £10,875.

Paul Ewing bought a Honda Super Blackbird in Glasgow with a Baglux harness, Alpha tank bag, hugger and Scottoiler for £8440 all in. The list price is £8499 without the extras.

Trevor Corbett, 45, bought a Hayabusa in blue and Silver (K4 model). Listed at £8699 he paid £7500 at a dealer in the south west. The dealer fitted the extras he had bought himself at the Ally Pally show free of charge.

Amos Hill feels he got a cracking deal on his ZZ-R 1200 from a small dealer in Suffolk. It was registered in November 2003 and is an official uk bike. It had 2750 miles on the clock andwas in pristine condition in pearl mystic black with an alarm immobiliser fitted and still nearly a year’s worth of factory warranty. And all for £5800. The cheapest new one he could was was £6750. Amos says: " That just goes to show how much you can save by trawling the net and doing a bit of travelling eh? "

Joseph O’Shaughnessy bought a 1996 Kawasaki GPZ1100S from a Newcastle dealer for £2750. It was on at £2999. It had covered just 12,600 genuinemiles from new and had a stainless Remus Innovation road legal (E4 stamped) exhaust and alarm fitted, three months warranty, six months tax and 12 months MoT.

Paul Evans bought a brand new Suzuki 600 Bandit with free alpha dot, free tank of petrol, plus 12 months AA ASSISTANCE. He paid £2550 and a 1995 600 bandit in part ex. Andy McAteer, 28, bought a 2001 X-plate Suzuki GSF 600Y Bandit for £2995 from a Honda dealer in Scotland. The bike was immaculate and came with Alphadot, a 3 month warranty, service history, full tank of petrol, years road tax, and newly serviced.

Keith Mitchell is still happy about the Suzuki Bandit 1200S he bought early this year. The pre-registered bike was advertised at £4800, but he got a good trade in. Especially as he describes his old bike as a 10-year-old GSX750F with an oil leak, rusty exhaust, knackered battery, worn-out rear tyre and 51,000 miles on the clock!

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