HONDA NTV650 Deauville (1988 - 1997) Review
- A charming all-rounder
- Incredible handling on road or track
- Bulletproof reliability
At a glance
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|Annual servicing cost:||£80|
Overall ratingNext up: Ride & brakes
The Honda Deauville 650 - or NTV650 as it's also known - isn’t just about frugal motoring, a quality build and endless reliability. Because somehow Honda segued in a cheeky charm and a handling package that has to be ridden to be believed. Most Honda Deauville 650s will be a little tired after a decade or more on the streets but at the right price they’re simply superb motorcycles.
This bike was replaced by the Honda Deauville 700 in 2006.
Ride quality & brakesNext up: Engine
The Honda Deauville 650's chassis and suspension package is almost perfect; not only can it turn on a sixpence and handle everything the city can throw at it, when the road opens up the Honda NTV650 can really reward its rider. The huge front disc and quality stoppers mean that the Honda Deauville 650 won’t be out of place on a trackday, despite its dowdy appearance.
EngineNext up: Reliability
The SOHC, V-twin motor in the Honda Deauville 650 could be the perfect cross-town device. The NTV650 is torquey, smooth and superbly flexible. The only drawback is the gearbox, which is one of the stiffest and least precise ever fitted to a mass-produced motorcycle.
Reliability & build qualityNext up: Value
There are a few issues with the Honda NTV650 – the rear discs warp (probably due to the extra stresses of the shaft drive), the radiator fan gets filled with crud and seizes, the steel frame binds to the bolts over time if unchecked so periodically remove and grease. Other than that the Honda Deauville 650 is a beauty - as reliable as death and taxes.
We've got loads of Honda Deauville 650 owners' reviews on the site, and overall it's clear people love their bikes. The V-Twin engine gets special mention several times, and the main negative comment is a lack of standard kit - such as a fuel gauge.
Value vs rivalsNext up: Equipment
Sadly most Honda Deauville 650s will, by now, be a little tired. Many will have been pressed into use as courier hacks (only believe mileages given on MoTs, as Honda NTV650s are easily clocked), but with some TLC they can still give many more years of faithful service. The motor is in a very soft state of tune and should be good for 100,000+ miles. The closest thing to them is a Honda CB500, but the Honda NTV650 is actually the better motorcycle.
Honda Deauville 650s have a comprehensive set of clocks including a tacho, good mirrors and a decent headlight. But…there’s a cottage industry dedicated to tuning Honda NTV650s, with everything from big bore kits to brake upgrades. Start with a screen, though.
|Engine type||6v V-twin, 5 gears|
|Frame type||Aluminium twin spar|
|Fuel capacity||19 litres|
|Front brake||316mm disc|
|Rear brake||276mm disc|
|Front tyre size||120/70 x 17|
|Rear tyre size||150/70 x 18|
Mpg, costs & insurance
|Average fuel consumption||60 mpg|
|Annual road tax||£96|
|Annual service cost||£80|
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How much to insure?
|Warranty term||Two year unlimited mileage|
Top speed & performance
|Max power||57 bhp|
|Max torque||39 ft-lb|
|Top speed||110 mph|
|1/4 mile acceleration||14.4 secs|
|Tank range||250 miles|
Model history & versions
- 1988: Honda NTV600 Revere: Precursor to the Honda NTV650 introduced; a naked roadster with 583cc. Discontinued in 1992.
- 1993: Honda NTV650 introduced.
- 1997: Honda NTV650 discontinued.
- Honda NT400V and NT650V BROS/Hawk GT: Grey imports only. Similar to the Honda NTV650, easily distinguished by chain drive and alloy beam frame.
Owners' reviews for the HONDA NTV650 (1988 - 1997)
15 owners have reviewed their HONDA NTV650 (1988 - 1997) and rated it in a number of areas. Read what they have to say and what they like and dislike about the bike below.
Summary of owners' reviews
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Have owned an old NTV with 150+k miles on the clock for the last 8 years. Must be the best bike I've ever owned in 50 years and I've had a lot of bikes from a Honda c90 to a BMWk1200s. The engine still runs superbly and uses no oil. Very tatty now so I've donated it to my son and just picked up another NTV in immaculate condition.... £650........... with just 20k on the clock. Seller knocked £800 off the price as he was off to Cyprus to live and the bike had been unused for while and would only run with the choke on............. held the throttle open wide for a couple of minutes and the problem went. It's so pristine I'm going to have to keep it clean. These bikes are so comfy, handle well, totally reliable, fast enough to get banned, fun to ride.
Well you can lock the front wheel up............. must be strong enough brakes.
These engines are superb............... will amble up steep hills in top gear... cruise at 80+.......... the brakes are great............ there's just nothing to complain about. The singlesided swinging arm is great............ back wheel comes off in about a minute and the disc/caliper says behind so you don't even have to sort that out. There's onlyone weakness with these bikes... the fuel pump. These have contactbreakers inside and after about 25k miles, they burn out and stick together leaving you stranded............. replacement points can be purchased for about £20 so worth doing a routine change now every 20k miles or so.
do it all yourself... its easy
lovely Torquay engine..... you can almost pull away in 5th
Version: The £300 scruffy sort, that's mechanically sound.
Annual servicing cost: £50
Very reliable, easy to ride and work on. V-Twin engine is a beauty. Got character: worth a test ride.
Negs: standard Brakes are "adequate". Put an adjustable rear shock in, which is better: but it's a basic suspension set-up. Pos: Handling is excellent, low comfy seat, good neutral riding position. Given the 90's tech and outstanding value for money, it's fairly good in this category.
65k on the clock: Bulletproof! Bags of torque, just enough Vibe through the bars and frame. Engine noise is full of character, and mine sounds loud! (Yes, Nissan Micra drivers: I am here). So, great for round town; and surprisingly good on the open road: it doesn't take long to get to 90 (on a closed road). Nice smooth power band through the revs, and engine braking/ de-acceleration is effective and predictable. And loud.
Unless your buying a rare minter from a Tardis, expect these older bikes to have some wear. Given the age, Honda built a bloody good bike. Spare parts are available and reasonably priced.
Easy to strip down and work on. Great mpg if you ride frugally.
Analogue clocks. Manual choke. No centre stand. Headlight is old school. No frills bike. There is a fuel reserve, so I'm not sure how some people are running out and complaining about lack of a fuel gauge on a 25 year old bike! Set your trip when you fill up, if or when your main is drying up, flick it over to reserve and GO TO THE PUMP.
Buying experience: Private, off a mate who owned it for 15 years and rode it to work. Hence the 65k mileage, and regular servicing/ maintenance.
Version: NTV600 Revere
Annual servicing cost: £120
Reliable, comfortable, economical, I feel very safe riding it and it looks good. Best features are, shaft drive, single sided swinging arm, comfortable seat and Strong, quality build. I would prefer more traditional handlebars that swept back a bit more for a more upright riding position and a modern instrument panel with clock and sat nav would be great. had bike for 15 years and can't find anything better for urban use.
improved front brakes would be good, although they are adequate for my usage.
600 V Twin, smooth and reliable starts easily and is powerful enough for my needs.
I wish they would build an upgraded new one.
only basic servicing required as its very reliable.
As mentioned, modern instrument panel with sat nav and clock would be good, and perhaps a USB port.
Buying experience: Bought very cheap second hand privately from a motor mechanic who kept it in top condition, cost £650 15 years ago., and still worth the same today or more.
First proper bike for me, this has taken all the abuse a young man can throw at it, clutch ups, lived outside, poor servicing, but it still seems to love me. Such a rewarding bike to ride, and learn on. There’s nothing quite like beating a couple of sports bikes round some bends on a bike nearly as old as you are. Only negatives are it’s performance at motorway speeds, with numb hands and singing up in the Rev range in fifth gear
The shock is awful if your a big fat lad
Revy, fun, torquey motor.
You can’t kill it
5/5 as there’s no equipment at all, so it’s a proper analogue experience. Although I did run out of fuel a few times while getting used to using the odometer
Buying experience: Private, £1000 for a solid bike with some corrosion
Bought this bike as a winter hack and am totally bowled over by its quality, reliability and character. All elements combine beautifully to make a proper bikers bike. Engine not too frenetic and has adequate power. Chassis provides excellent neutral handling. Brakes good enough for the job at hand. This was Honda at their peak in the 90’s.
Highly surprised with ride quality and handling. On rails.
A real peach. Not massively powerful but smooth and tractable. Has a bit of a surprise over 6000 revs.
High quality for a 24 year old bike. Had it for several months now and always starts first time. No problems so far.
Petrol and yearly oil change only required. 200 miles to the tankful.
No real frills but perfectly adequate.
Buying experience: Private for £700
I would recommend an NTV to anybody who wanted a bike to ride and enjoy.
Torque, loads of it!
A Japanese Honda isn't it?
Fuel gauge would have been nice, never mind, odometers are there for a reason!
Buying experience: Privately, £450 for the beast, no MOT, half an hour later, MOT and one nice NTV back on the road. My ER5 had been at my so called friend's (the mechanic's) lock up for nigh on two months. Prognosis was not good, it was drinking petrol, eating oil, so I got another engine (£30 that cost) to swap over, he would have to change over the ignition and generator as the breaker had stripped those off. But the engine was turning freely and with a little cosseting would have fired up. Two months had gone past and no transplant, so we told him to put the old engine back in and we would collect it. Two weeks go past no word. Now this son of a female canine had sold a bike we had loaned him (and put the V5 into his name to make it easier for him to get insurance on) to pay off some of his debts when he went bankrupt. He owes me as I could have had him done for theft. We took his assurance that the bike was ready to go as being good and went and picked up the ER5. It smelled of petrol but we just sloshed some more in the tank and I rode off. Used a gallon doing 21 miles... Next morning I discover that he had not tightened the fuel lines, so I did those up. At this point I had given up on the ER5 and we had found another bike, 120 miles away near Southend! The ER5, with MOT, spare engine and spare CDI unit was sold to a breaker. Well an interesting ride over complete with engine cutting out a few times on the 19 mile journey ensured that my love of the ER was kicked to the can. We offloaded it, the spare key, the spare engine and CDI, picked up the cash, signed the V5 over on the yellow slip and bogged off quickly. As we got back in the car my wife received a text from my so called bloody friend to say he did not think he had done the rear axle up! I let him know what I thought of him. We had looked at the replacement a few days before, the guy was being mucked about by a buyer on ebay something rotten, first it was OK without an MOT then he wanted an MOT, despite the ad clearly saying NO MOT! It was on a buy it now, so we asked the guy what he would take, he said £450, so we left him with a £100 deposit and he pulled the lot raising two fingers to Rabbie Roy north of the border. Then the other half went down with the heaviest cold out. Now we had seen this blue paragon of motorcycling and heard it running, initial inspection looked good, despite the last MOT being in 2011! Arrangements were made for an MOT station to test this beast and we went down to Essex to get it. The M11 is not a road of excitement! Well we rock up and start the bike, clouds of white smoke everywhere. Now it was not doing this when it was last run, we saw it, it was started from cold and started normally. But it was not oily smoke, the engine sounded healthy so with the agreement that if the MOT went belly up then we could leave the bike with him and get a van. Rode through the streets of Leigh on Sea like 007! The DB5 smoke cloud generator was doing well. Down Cricketfield Lane to Lester's. I pronounced my scepticism of the likelihood of it passing. Left him with the keys and went away for half an hour. Now the guy had refurbished the bike, new BT45s front and rear, new brake lever, it was nice and tidy and worked well, just with more smoke than a terminal nicotine fiend. Well I walked back to Lester's and surprise sur flaming prise, not even a ruddy advisory! Apparently the smoke was dying down, it had reduced through the test, just a temp glitch or half a gallon of car shampoo down the exhaust sort of thing, there you go £29 please! Paid, paid the road fund license and with a stunned feeling walked back to the bike. Let she who must be obeyed know that I would not be in the car on the way back. Pulled the helmets and the gloves on and started her up. Trailing the other half on the mainly dual carriageways back to the M11 I was trying to indicate to my wife that it might be an idea to pull over to slop the gallon of petrol we had bought with us in, the bike was running on main, but I am not going to take chances of running out of fuel on the M11. We went past 4 fecking laybys, me flashing the headlight, indicating, gesticulating and she was just cruising up the road, thankfully we made it into the fifth layby, where the bike was given a top up of new fuel. His full tank was about two thirds empty! Well on the way home the beast behaved itself admirably, only kicked out of gear once, was far more composed over roads, and handled like a dream, a dream!
From 6000 rpm on up this quality machine reveals just why it has become a true cult moto-psyche-el. A forgiving badass.
Annual servicing cost: £120
Great choice for an old guy returning to bikes after 36 years
Lots of 5 Star but I guess things across the board have changed out of all recognition since I was last a regular Biker
Vibrates a little more than I was expecting across the rev range.
Perfect in the first 3 months
Difficult to be accurate having owned the bike for such a short time
Reasonably equipped for a 21 year old bike
Buying experience: Bought this from a client who is a keen biker. It had a genuine 7000 miles on it and looked brand new having been many years in a private collection, on show to the public. Was re-commissioned in 2013, serviced and fitted with new tyres. The guy I bought it from had several other bikes and found it a bit small for his stature. I was looking for a 535 Virago but he suggested this instead and I feel I made the right decision. I will be looking for a 80-90 HP tourer next but plan to keep this for my wife. Paid £1,600, which I thought reasonable as condition superb. Getting around 62 mpg, on mostly A roads, trying not to exceed speed limit by more than 10 MPH
Annual servicing cost: £20
If you want a bike to impress your mates with, or want arm-wrenching power- look elsewhere. If you want a road bike that actually works as transport as well as being endearing and entertaining, have a look at one of these.
Every time I hit a pot hole I swear I'll get a trail bike. Otherwise you just don't notice the ride and handling- it's that good. It is excellent around town and is very stable on the open road even in bad conditions. I go touring and only stop for fag/drink breaks and fuel every couple of hundred miles. The big single front disc and the rear one do the job, but sintered pads on the front give 2 finger braking without hurting the disc.
Sometimes you just want more power, but most of the time it is enough. The v-twin effect is nice though- it is a lot more relaxed than a four. There is some vibration but not unpleasant, and it smooths out if revved. The carbs need careful balancing for low revs smoothness. What it really need is a Triumph triple motor though. The gearbox is shocking for clonkiness, but mine has got better over the years- I reckon it is about run-in now.
It has been said that when the day of judgement comes and the dust settles, an NTV will come barrelling out of the smoke with its tyres smouldering and just carry on, and on. Anything can break of course, but I'm more confident of this bike than any other. Mine is 22 years old. Nothing has ever gone wrong over the 45000 miles I've put on it. The silencer rusted through at 17 years old, but I don't think that counts; a Motad slips straight on and even improves the mpg.
The prices for decent used ones are just going to go up now- they can't get lower. I don't trust others to do servicing so I don't know about charges. A decent 10-40 oil and a Honda Civic oil filter every year is the norm. You can actually clean the air filter, though the health and safety people would scream. The tyre and brake wear depends largely on how you ride, but are average for a middle weight low powered bike. Mpg can vary between 40 and 80 (yes), but 60-70 is about right for gentle use. And there is no messy chain to wear out. Hurray.
For use as a touring bike it lacks a clock and fuel gauge, but what it has is top quality. The centre stand is a doddle to use. This bike needs a fairing, or at least a screen, to be used for what it is best at.
As the title suggests, if you see an NTV with high mileage don't be put off! I recently bought my neighbours old bike off him and it has 151,000 YES 151,000 miles. Considering most of these are commuter/courier bikes and thus are a source someones income although weathered on the outside they are probably well looked after. I brought mine as a hack to work and back as upcoming roadworks/traffic and fuel costs tempted me to buy it. As other reviews have stated 50+mpg is easy on one of these. In real money that mean £18 will get you 200ish miles before you flick to reserve. As for the ride, although a little tired everything is still there and if it aint been replaced once its been replaced twice. Very good brakes although the front on mine is a little week, a gearbox from a Combine Harvester requires technique to shift quickly but as MCN stated its built to last! its begging for a 6th gear as 80mph = 5,000rpm in 5th. The Engine is rock solid with smooth power right up to the r'line and has a little induction roar to boot too! For Commuting and filtering its superb, its far easier then my 1998 Firestorm. So to wrap it up... the NTV will never be able to step to a Bandit6 or Hornet in terms of out-an-out ability, (i had a Bandit6 as my first bike). However New to biking...want a V Twin... can't yet afford an SV, try one you'll be suprised. Insurance is cheap too i'm 22 and pay £250 with euro cover + breakdown + ride any bike. But most importantly it will take anything you can throw at it + you don't see many on the hard shoulder awaitng the revoery men! Safe biking!
The NTV650 is part of a bike family that includes the Revere, the Bros 650/400, and the US Hawk GT (essentially the Bros 650; very popular in the US as a base for modifications). They're some of the best-handling, best-made bikes ever to come out of the Honda stable; probably neglected a little at the time because they weren't cheap, but then quality isn't -- single-sided swingarm, beautiful cast wheels, twin-spark, 3-valve cylinders, lovely stainless exhaust system (especially the 'stubby' one on the Broses), and a chassis that has a lot in common with Honda's 1980s two-stroke racers. Find any of these bikes in good nick, keep on top of maintenance (though to be honest it's easy) and you'll have a bike that'll make you very happy for a long time.
my ntv is a 1996 with 73000 on the clock i use it every day,starts first time and runs lovely,i get about 210 miles before i have to swich on reserve,if i get another bike it will have to be a ntv650 01-05.i buy my bike on ebay for £551,just pure luck.
A reliable dependable Honda with "character" complete with shaft drive housed in a single sided swinging arm which makes rear wheel removal easy. "character" = good engine sound; just enough engine vibration for you to notice; gearbox design by Honda's agricultural machinery division; decent sized fuel tank and fuel economy to give a good range; 57bhp & a "flat" 38ftlbs torque output, OK off the mark but runs out of steam and gears too soon. Can Honda san design me a modern styled 1000cc version using a tuned for touring/economy/torquey VTR motor, and a similar single sided shaft drive rear? NOT the latest derivative automatic 700cc plastic fantastic Honda DNA!
great fun to ride, power when needed, great as my hack & touring bike
I've ridden a couple of NTV650s, but prefer my smaller, alloy framed, chain driven version. Plus points: amazing reliability (I've completed 119,000 km on it since 1996, and have replaced: Fuel Pump, front and rear discs (the front's are very large and eventually warp, either standard or EBC). Currently running ABE front disc. Oh, and the petrol tank rusted through on the right hand side, which I repaired with putty. Rear fairing has cracks in it, which don't appear to be getting worse. Minus points: the chain is out of line with the swing arm which makes adjusting slightly tricky, and requires a special tool. Some of the nuts and bolts are rusting a bit, but this bike is 20 years old and lives on the street. Goes onto reserve wit little warning, which can cause the occasional stall at traffic lights. Equipment a bit spartan; have added Daytona heated grips which are ace. Handling is very good (not quite on par with my old NC30), but very precise and forgiving. The motor is fun, and breathes through K&Ns, dynojet and Supertrapp exhaust, which gives it a rorty note and enables the bike to fire away from junctions faster than almost any other bike on my daily commute. As a pillion bike it's a little cramped, though we made it out to the Czech republic two up in 1996. Overall, fun bike to own, and I look forward to clocking up 100,000 miles in a couple of years. Humbug