HONDA ST1100 PAN EUROPEAN (1989 - 2001) Review
At a glance
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|Annual servicing cost:||£260|
Overall ratingNext up: Ride & brakes
For anyone looking for a long-distance tool the Honda ST1100 Pan European is probably one of the safest bets around. The only problem is availability – owners rate them so highly that low-mileage machines are rarer than hen’s teeth. Not that mileage matters as the motor and construction quality is thermospherically high.
Ride quality & brakesNext up: Engine
The Honda ST1100 Pan European's chassis is so beautifully balanced that despite the Pan’s colossal 297kg dry weight it feels poised and light, even at walking pace. Some riders complain that the tyres feel remote from the road, but it’s just a question of putting your faith in the capable Pan. The standard screen makes for a very noisy ride past 90mph an in windy conditions you can fell pushed about by windblast.
EngineNext up: Reliability
The Honda ST1100 Pan European's DOHC V4 motor is so smooth and its delivery so linear that it redefines notions of ease. Reliability and durability is second-to-none. The five-speed gearbox never finds anything but drive and in top 90mph is met with just 4500rpm on the clock. You can hit 130mph, but that’s not really the point.
Reliability & build qualityNext up: Value
Honda ST1100 Pan European motors will cheerfully toss off 250,000 miles, the suspension lasts well and the build quality is terrifically strong. Keep an eye on tyre wear, which dramatically affects the handling, corrosion on the swingarm, seizing brake calipers and poor paint quality which affects older bikes particularly.
Value vs rivalsNext up: Equipment
Honda ST1100 Pan Europeans are expensive, even compared to more modern stuff, but the flip to that is they do hold their value well. The only downer is the puny service intervals – just 4000 miles apart. At £150 or so a time that soon mounts up.
High quality hard panniers come as standard with the Honda ST1100 Pan European and there’s a plethora of aftermarket touring kit, like replacement seats, screens and other luggage.
|Engine type||16v V4 , 6 gears|
|Frame type||Steel double cradle|
|Fuel capacity||28 litres|
|Rear suspension||Twin 296mm discs|
|Front brake||Twin 296mm discs|
|Rear brake||296mm disc|
|Front tyre size||120/70 x 18|
|Rear tyre size||160/70 x 18|
Mpg, costs & insurance
|Average fuel consumption||44 mpg|
|Annual road tax||£93|
|Annual service cost||£260|
|Used price||£1,400 - £2,500|
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How much to insure?
|Warranty term||Two year unlimited mileage|
Top speed & performance
|Max power||100 bhp|
|Max torque||79 ft-lb|
|Top speed||134 mph|
|1/4 mile acceleration||12.7 secs|
|Tank range||270 miles|
Model history & versions
1989: Honda ST1100 Pan European introduced.
2002: Replaced by Honda ST1300 Pan European, with a bigger motor, an electric screen (on the ABS version), an adjustable seat and improved fairing.
Honda ST1100 ABS: Fitted with Advanced Braking System.
Owners' reviews for the HONDA ST1100 PAN EUROPEAN (1989 - 2001)
36 owners have reviewed their HONDA ST1100 PAN EUROPEAN (1989 - 2001) and rated it in a number of areas. Read what they have to say and what they like and dislike about the bike below.
Summary of owners' reviews
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|Value vs rivals:|
|Annual servicing cost:||£260|
Dont bother! You will be in tears!
As comments stated...just waiting for engine failure.. Then it will be scrapped.
St1100 promotes itself ss the best touring machine.. Rubbish... Alternators crack, expensive to replace and fit through poor castings then fail.. Engine, Google it.. Have cracks in engine block, only on RH side.. No one tells you... Majority of build years sufferd with these... Then this equates to a mechanical engine nightmare and electrics.... Honda should of sorted this out years sgo but never did.
If it wernt for the cracked blocks and 40amp alternator it would be good but buyer be aware.....
Buying experience: Buyer be aware of major engine faults.
Version: Non ABS
Annual servicing cost: £300
The king of the 90's big tourers, one of the best bikes Honda have ever made.
The vast majority of ST's will have aftermarket suspension by now, it's a sound design and the handling is amazing for something so huge, thousands were sold to police all over the world because of the sheer competence of the bike, the massive fairing can be fitted with additional wind deflectors and there are a myriad of aftermarket screens. I've rode through torrential rain and barely got wet at 90mph. The only thing stopping it getting it top marks are the brakes, they're simply not up to the job of stopping a 600lb plus bike, hard braking requires a hefty stamp on the rear as well as the front, the rear disc is massive. Calipers will be past their best by now.
The engine is typical Honda V4, an absolute jewel, cam timing uses a fully enclosed belt. Although it's "only" 100bhp and fed by nothing more exotic than carbs, it's as smooth at 2000 rpm as it is at the 8000 rpm redline. Despite the weight, changing up through the gears at 5k will keep you ahead of most traffic. 79ft/lb of torque makes overtaking easy without dancing on the gearlever.
this bike was one of Honda's flagship models, build quality is pretty amazing, age and poor maintainence is taking it's toll on many of them now, swingarms rust badly if not caught in time, early alternators can give problems. Most OE exhausts will be long dead.
Service intervals are a puny 4000 miles, not a lot on a bike that will easily do a 500 mile day trip if required.Tyre wear is heavy, mostly down to the sheer weight of a loaded bike, worn tyres destroy the handling. Fuel is a solid 45mpg
Back in the day the ST had a level of equipment only bettered by the Goldwing and dressed Harleys, 35 litre pannniers as standard, fairing pockets, a spring out handle for lifting the bike onto the centre stand and a rotary knob for adjusting headlamp aim on the move, integrated cradsh bars, a huge twin bulb headlight shared with the CBR1000F and absolutely the best mirrors fitted to a motorcycle. A version vith ABS and traction control was also available. Whilst this doesn't seem excessive, in the eary 1990s, it was top spec.
Buying experience: I've owned two, both were £1000 privately, low mileage bikes will still make strong money, but a well looked after example with 75k on it will still be a lot of bike and substantially cheaper.
Version: Non ABS
Annual servicing cost: £900
The Honda drops a mark due to the standard riding position and handlebars. It doesn't seem to know what it wants to be, too narrow and low for cruising but too high for sports riding. I cured this with some 10 inch westerns!
Uprated fork springs and Hagon shock make it a 5 out of 5. Before the mods it was a 3 but again probably more because of age than bad design.
Great punchy V4. Pulls from any revs with plenty of power for the chassis. Even better with the custom made collector pipes that separate the two banks of cylinders. This also gives it the sound it always should have made. Somewhere between a Ducati and a Cross plane R1.
It's a Honda! Only problems are age related and to be expected.
I get through a lot of brake pads and tyres! It's time consuming to work on.
Higher screen (obviously) Nial McKenzie said the same thing years ago! Hot grips. Big top box. Works well on Avon Storm 3D. Michelin Road 4s wore out way too quick, 3000 miles for a front.
Buying experience: Private, 1400 squid. A lot of bike for the money.
Version: Non ABS model.
Annual servicing cost: £300
Mile muncher with good milage and tank. Plenty of room for a pillion and comfortable too with smooth power and good handling. It is a heavy bike to push around so be careful. Riding it is easy, with slow handling and manoeuvres no problems.
Ride this all-day you will tire before this does.
Smooth linear power delivery and no vibration.
Extremely reliable, even the battery lasted 14 years. Rear calliper needs serving every 3 years and I have just replaced the headers. Valves clearances ok after 38000 miles and the engine burns very little oil.
Normal business here, oil changes every 4k, tyres about the same
Bridgestone tyres, I have used every one up to the latest and they are all good. Heavy wear on the front first, they go first around 4k when riding quick.
Buying experience: Bought this new for around £8k and still have it.
Annual servicing cost: £100
I have a 2012 BMW R1200GS but to keep the miles off it with doing a lot of touring bought 2nd hand Pan with 19,000miles on it and a few bruises. Serviced it myself, changed fork seals after sprung a leak and then rear shock went when I was in scotland with the wife on a test, replaced when I got back. As I had a French tour with the lads and a massive european 3weeker with wife I decided on the Pan for that as I know how much she likes to pack! 3,750miles in all weathers and never missed a beat. I got so used to it I loved being on it, loads of torque from the grunty motor and on fast roads you almost feel like your at tickover as 4krpm = 80mph. WOrst thing is static weight as she is a brute to move around fully loaded.
mines non ABS but I wish the front brake was more adjustable as leaver is a good stretch. Its a heavy bike so you have to know your distances and ride accordingly. On sweeping roads its a fine ride but heavy when you get to the 'B' roads.
stunning considering it is designed 30years ago, never felt like I need more power just pulls like a train and roars as a V four does.
fork seal and rear shock but for 18 years old I could not complain and fortunately I restore bikes as a hobby so do all work myself. PLastics ok, bit of rash on fork legs
oil and filters set of spark plugs no more than any other bike and tyres.
gear indicator and voltmeter as standard would have been nice, clock is functional and also fuel.
Buying experience: haggled down to £1600 private sale as it had a few bruises and had been dropped a couple of times no doubt at standing due to weight!
Annual servicing cost: £150
One of best bikes on the road well reliable
So comfy I can ride 50miles without a break
Engine is superb
Service it myself why pay a garage
That price 150 is yearly so not expensive all said and done
Top box and panniers are great
Buying experience: Paid 800 for it stripped it down did everything it needed another 400 and well worth spending the money
Version: Non ABS
Big Bang for your motorcycle money!!
Smooth, nimble, predictable. 1997 appears showroom condition.
Annual servicing cost: £200
This is my best bike ever.
Look out for brake seizing issues, no other issue at all. Really like the linked brakes, works very well.
Best engine I have ever ridden, very smooth and reliable. Enough power all the time.
Look out for swing arm and seizing brakes.
Oil change twice a year including final gear oil, brake pads last 2-3 years, and tyres about 2 years per set.
The hard panniers are brilliant, enough to bring all the things for a long tour. Only problem: no good place for a satnav.
This bike is just brilliant at what I need it for: eating miles every day and coming for more in comfort.
Brakes are OK, ride and road holding is decent for a bike of this age. Fuel tank gives a range of 300 miles and the original seat gives about half that. I'm sure a better after market seat would add 50 miles.
What an engine: Smooth, excellent spread of power from tick-over to the red line. Sounds pretty decent too.
Mine is 22 years old and hardly has a mark on it. The only item that has been replaced is the exhaust system.
No hazard flashers and after market heated grips. A bit of a backward step after my BMW
Buying experience: Not easy to find a good one but it was worth holding out until one turned up.
Version: Non ABS
Annual servicing cost: £400
Excellent mile muncher but as noted getting the type of tyre that suits is important as she does get twitchy with Sportmax's and in the winter rinse off the front callipers with a bit of warm water otherwise you'll be stripping down and rebuilding the callipers every year, really bad fault and its why its only got a 4000 mile service interval. Also whenever I take the rear wheel out I clean and also slap on a coat of black smoothrite on the swingarm, I don't know what we use in Britain as road salt but it must have a PH of around 1
Miles and miles....I rode from Inverness to Kent in one hop and apart from a numb Arse and feet, which you'd expect, felt as fresh as a daisy :)
Smooth and Torquey, pulls like a Train. Get a descent pair of silencers and yank the baffles out, still quite quiet, but you'll notice quite a difference
Only real problem I've had was an Alternator going on a 1994 model, which has the 28A oil cooled model which isn't made anymore. If you a 1996 or later then they've fitted an air cooled 40A job which is better with an inbuilt reg/rec but it is probe again to road salt corrosion so keep a beady eye on it. Also its worth checking the Cam belt at 60k as it should last for 90k-100k but they can wear out early if its an older model.
Two tyres, brake pads, oil change and coolant flush and mot costs around £400 at my local shop
Best Tyres - Avon Storm 3Dxm, not the cheapest tyre but bloody good milage and handling. I'm a bit of a fatty and get 8000 out of the front and 10000 from the rear!!!!
Buying experience: Latest one is a 2002 non ABS, 60k near mint condition £2200 from a dealer with 3 months parts & labour warranty, which is always nice
Version: 2003 ST1100P (Police Model)
Annual servicing cost: £500
Not much to be said, it's the perfect bike. I've had 2 previous ones and all 3 rode (ride) flawlessly. :) Plenty of room to shave 2" off the seat and put in a gel insert, put some handlebar risers on yours and the rest is up to you. So many ways to customize an ST. Average just under 50MPG on the highway. For a 700+ pound bike, that's AMAZING!!
Great stopping and fantastic handling.
Smooth as silk. More power than needed.
2nd to none.
Change the fluids and you'll find nothing major to do on this bike for 100,000+ miles.
Non-cluttered dash is easy to see everything at a glance.
Annual servicing cost: £200
Up grade them and keep the clean never let me down
Only missing 6 gear for motorways but a strong engine
I can only say the bike is 25 years old and the wiring is starting to get old and frail, so sometimes the wires, need a bit of TLC but otherwise look after the engine and the bike will look after you
Look around for parts, Japan and Hong Kong still do parts just keep looking
Extra lights, under the head lights and spots on the wheel arch, with a fog light to be fitted on the back nearer Christmas, i have put back on the police siren for some car driver that don't see me!!!
Buying experience: Privately, got a good deal
Annual servicing cost: £60
Best features are the light crisp handling. I also have a Kawasaki GTR1000 which is like riding an incredibly fast block of concrete in comparison. If anything, at the moment, the worst part of it is that the 5 speed high gearing means I'm often in 4th rather than 5th. Comparing the Kawasaki, the 6 speed gives more flexibility. I would have expected a bit more bottom end torque from the V4 at low revs. But, again, turn the throttle and it responds.
As I stated above, the handling is light, crisp and very positive. I can weave this bike through traffic like a 250 and it is also quite slim with the panniers on. As I said I have a GTR1000 and the 19l panniers make it like trying to get a barge through traffic. The brakes are ABS and it has TCS so I didn't expect there to be any surprises. The brakes are light, positive and can really slow you down if needed. I bought this bike in Manchester and rode it straight back to FIFE that day. The bike was comfortable even over the 370 miles of the route I took. It never lacked power, in fact up the A1 there was nothing I could not simply pass by a touch of the throttle. Given the plug situation that was remarkable. I've driven pretty long distance on the Kawa (800 miles return in one weekend) and the ride and handling far outclass that. I guess I've been spoiled though. Someone GPZ tuned the Kawa and the lower performance is quite marked. But you can't put the bike down for that, it may not set your hair on fire but it's not meant to. It does what it says on the tin.
Powerful, flexible but tends to chunter in 5th gear at 30mph. I know it's part gearing but at 100bhp I would have expected a bit more low down torque for the slow stuff.
I haven't had the bike long so can't say too much. But given that it's 13 years old, the engine runes extremely well and the brakes are in excellent condition. Even the back brake which was binding only took 20 minutes to free off. That is very good engineering. The clutch is giving a few issues but I don't know how it has been ridden. Then again the clutch is the easiest accessible of any vehicle (let alone bike), that I've ever seen or worked on or owned.
This is a materials basis only. I do my own work and expect 2 services. Given that you could drive a bus through the plugs I took out, yet the only evidence was a slight tendency not to start when cold, plus a little less oomph, I'd say they only need changing every 4 services.
Nice panniers, good fairing. I've been used to the stand up fairing on the Kawa and the original Honda one seems small. I was blown around quite a bit on the journey home which never happens on the larger screen. I'll probably buy the larger one. The fitted top box is a joke. I can't even get my helmet into it without putting the lip inside the head space. That I will certainly replace.
Best feature has to be comfort, ride for 120 miles and get off fresh as when you started. If you're into touring it's a good bike, shaft drive is a massive plus here. If your looking for excitement, stay away. Worst feature static weight. Physically moving it around requires a lot of effort.
As there's no ABS or linked brakes on this model, so it's down to me to know how much brake to use, and that's how I like it. Bit of rear brake at low speed works wonders. I wear a medium glove and I find the front brake lever is a bit of a reach. So far I've failed to find a dog leg lever replacement. Brakes on the whole, are up to job. Ride wise, you know you're on a heavy touring bike. There's going to be no getting your knee down on this one, but it's all positive. Whether filtering in traffic, B road twisties, or motorways in a strong side wind. The weight is handy when going over the Severn Bridge in January. Is it a good all-rounder? Probably not, but what bike is. No pillion as yet, but there's no shortage of seat space for two.
The engine lacks power, character and boarders on boring. You open the throttle and it gets faster quickly, but no adrenaline rush. I had a ZZR1100 before and the two engines are nothing alike. No getting your arms ripped out their sockets on this bike. Personally, I like the feel of a twin, but my budget wouldn't stretch to a BMW, this time. On the up side, the engine is smooth. Rev counter shows just 3700 at 70mph. I'm not going to incriminate by saying any more, but I'm looking forward to Germany.
The previous owner spent a lot of money on a reconditioned alternator. As the bike had only done 41,000 he was either unlucky or it's a weak point. He also put on a complete stainless exhaust, as the original had rotted out. Forks had been overhauled, as had the swing arm bushes. New battery for good measure.
I asked at my local Honda dealer, how much for the carbs to be balanced, £160. That seems to be pretty high to me. Balancing carbs on a four can be a sod, but I'll probably have a go myself. I bought a service kit, oil, oil filter, air filter and spark plugs for £58. At a guess, I expect it's going to cost me around £200 plus a year, not including tyres and disasters.
Basic, but adequate equipment. Best feature, the fairing is phenomenal, but could do with an adjustable screen. When I got the bike it had a almost illegal Continental on the front and a new Bridgestone 023 on the rear. The front end wandered around like a lost soul, so I changed it for a Bridgestone 023 on the front and hey presto the bike handled.
Buying experience: Bought the bike privately for an amazing £1400. Considering the work the previous owner had done and the near full service history, a bit of a bargain.
Version: NON-ABS or TC
Annual servicing cost: £100
The best features are too many to count! Reliability, the effortless way it performs - too many positives.. Negatives - one - vibration through the twist grip. I blame the vibes on damaging the nerves in my right hand BUT I would still recommend this superb motorcycle.
The bike is at its best when it takes a deep breath at 90 mph on the freeway and just wants to prove how good it is. Starts getting uncomfortable after 400 miles although the most miles in 1 day was 636.
The engine is adequate for the bikes weight but don't expect a thump in the back when rapidly accelerating.
Everything about this bike is top-class. Reliability? - mine had done 152,000 miles before I decided to change the cam belt. Checked the valves while I was at it ( 1st time) - still in tolerance. Put new spark plugs in at 50,000 miles and replaced them at 152,000 miles but nothing wrong with old ones.
I self-service the bike - oil and filter changes etc every 4,000 miles. I changed the cam belt myself and reckon it would have cost about $1,000 because of the complexity. Gas mileage is 48 per US gallon - I check it regularly.
The standard hard cases are typical Honda quality - top class but sometimes can be finicky to remove. Expect front tire to last 9-12,000 miles. Rear on average, about 10,000 miles
Buying experience: I bought new from dealer and paid about $11,000 in 2000. Best money I ever spent.
Annual servicing cost: £100
Best features everything except the seat. Worst feature, the stock seat, why do the slope it forward so that one's nuts get crushed?
The stock seat is bloody awful. Brakes a pretty good. Ride & suspension are good. Bike is fairly nimble for it's size and weight.
Ample power for such a big bike. Engine is fairly quiet at road speeds. Good 'round town fuel range and power. Why does the gear box sound like a sewing machine?
Typical Honda. Good engineering, and overbuilt to a fault.
I do all my own work
Nice stock panniers. Love having a gas gauge. Clock & headlight adjuster, Meh!
Buying experience: Bought privately, from a guy off Craigslist. Asking $1800, took $1600. The bike was in okay conditon, needed a little love (carburetor leaked gas into one of the cylinders.) Odometer miles were 40,000. Feel like I stole it. I live in Tucson AZ, where rust & corrosion are pretty much unknown.
Annual servicing cost: £88
I scratched a long-tem itch in May 2014. At 56 years of age I passed my cat A licence. After seeking advice from my course instructor and my test examiner (both top blokes) and doing a bit of research I plumped for a ST1100. It went over 20,000 miles on my test ride and now sits at 25,000 just over a year later. Obviously I have little experience of riding other bikes. I trained on an ER-6N and 'fiddled around' on mates bike years ago. To be honest, my range of experience is likely to remain limited. My current 'Pan is brilliant. My next bike will probably be a ST1300 unless there is something out there I've missed....and I've looked at BMW's, Kawasaki GTR 1400's/Z1000SX's, Yamaha FJR 1300'S, Triumphs and V Stroms.Yep, it's a heavy bike but it all drops into the road as soon as you move. I imagine everyone has to watch that they don't park pointing downhill too close an obstacle, be it parked car, wall or kerb. You ain't going to pull a 'Pan far back uphill on your own. Worst features- honestly? It was getting the fuel cap off, but a smear of Vaseline took care of that. Best features- every time I reach for my Shoei and gloves the old pulse quickens at the prospect of spending time on my bike.
Even though I'm new-ish to motorcycling, the bike gets through the traffic very well for a tourer. The secret is to use the mirrors like cat's whiskers; if they go through the panniers will fit too. Then out on A and M roads the bike says 'sit back, enjoy, leave it to me....but keep an eye on the speedo'. I've done 170 miles non-stop without issue. I reckon I could empty the tank in one go....and I'm a creaking 56! And it stops. The harder you squeeze, the quicker it slows.
Depends what you want. I'm no nutter but you can get on with it if you ask the question. I've never red-lined it, in fact there's little need to go over 5,000 RPM unless you're on a mission. 115 MPH with a massive twist left on the throttle was plenty for me. Nice rangey gears, reliable 'clunk' into 1st. Very smooth engine with no discernible vibration beyond reporting back to the rider that a large engine is at work.
The swing arm is fine. It went through service and MOT without touching the sides. It will get the garage it deserves when we move next month. I've kept it under a cover, ridden all year (sometimes with weeks in between use) and it starts like you've just got off it.
£88 for the 24,000 mile service, known as a 'tyre kicker' but I asked for filters to be checked and changed if necessary. I am a couple of thousand miles from a tyre change which will be completed in good time as tyre wear is not good on the handling of this bike. Always get over 200 miles to a tank even shuffling about in the bloody traffic in my home town (Brighton). I've ridden to Leicester and back on three occasions. The tank ran to well over 250 miles.
I've dropped a point because the 'Pan is not possessed of a selection of engine settings. It does not have throttle modes. It does not have a dilithium crystal and it won't tell you what gear you're in. The switchgear is functional with no frilly bits. Dials with needles. I accept that new bikes are phenomenal pieces of technology. Mine isn't. Good. Panniers and top box are ample and solid. Pockets either side in the fairing, one with a lock. Brilliant seat for two-up.
Buying experience: I brought from a local garage. They had known the bike for six years, knew the reason for sale and were happy to discount clothing purchases after I'd offered the asking price- £3,700.
a lot of bike for the money. big & heavy but handles superb (worn tyres affect handling considerably- just put a new set of bt023 on - excellent even in this wet weather). commands a large presence on the road (which doesn't completely stop the SMIDSY's but definitely reduces them) and still gets through the traffic jams with all the panniers and wide mirrors etc. abs & tcs have got me out of trouble more than once! I have an ex police model (just under 25,000 miles atm) with the bigger alternator and have heated grips and power outlets for satnav, phone charger, video camera, comms set, mp3,etc. and it never fails to start. I invested in a corbin dual seat which is super comfortable. I travel around 160 miles a day in all weathers (to work and back- double or more on a trip out) -aside from obvious reduced visibility hardly ever notice the wind and rain. roughly 40-50mpg depending how I ride. plenty of storage - makes no difference to handling or speed fully loaded up +pillion. great bike.
I brought an ex MOD pan back in April 2013 ( 5months ago) and other than reliability its fantastic. The brakes have seize up easily so it pays to keep them clean. this has lead to cracked discs too. The handling is incredible for a bike of its age and size, I still play with sports bikes but without the bad back and having to stop for fuel, its a bike that rewards using your brain rather than relying on the bike to do things for you, and yet is completely comfortable at the same time. The ride is very smooth compared with the other two bikes I've owned (cbr 125 which I did 42000 miles on, and a Kawasaki ZR7, 15000 in 18 months). Equipment is fantastic, everything you need for a tourer, even down to the little cubby holes in the front fairing. Build quality was incredible but its showing its age with cracked fairing panels, and the cracked discs but I think they were originals, but thats about it. Reliability hasn't been great, she's currently off the road waiting for a rectifier (a common Honda problem NOT limited to the pan). The engine is beautiful. Keep the revs low and it just chugs along as you would expect, increase the revs and you have a comfortable sporty bike that catches a lot of sports bikes out. And as for value, I got mine for ONLY £1000 off a customer from my work. Sometimes a deal is too good to turn down. I have plans to get braided hoses on the brakes and clutch, and the clutch slave cylinder needs an overhaul too. Oh and I'm only 24
I brought an ex MOD pan back in April 2013 ( 5months ago) and other than reliability its fantastic. The brakes have seize up easily so it pays to keep them clean. this has lead to cracked discs too. The handling is incredible for a bike of its age and size, I still play with sports bikes but without the bad back and having to stop for fuel, its a bike that rewards using your brain rather than relying on the bike to do things for you, and yet is completely comfortable at the same time. The ride is very smooth compared with the other two bikes I've owned (cbr 125 which I did 42000 miles on, and a Kawasaki ZR7, 15000 in 18 months). Equipment is fantastic, everything you need for a tourer, even down to the little cubby holes in the front fairing. Build quality was incredible but its showing its age with cracked fairing panels, and the cracked discs but I think they were originals, but thats about it. Reliability hasn't been great, she's currently off the road waiting for a rectifier (a common Honda problem NOT limited to the pan). The engine is beautiful. Keep the revs low and it just chugs along as you would expect, increase the revs and you have a comfortable sporty bike that catches a lot of sports bikes out. And as for value, I got mine for ONLY £1000 off a customer from my work. Sometimes a deal is too good to turn down. I have plans to get braided hoses on the brakes and clutch, and the clutch slave cylinder needs an overhaul too
well what can i say about this bike i bought one the other week its a joy to ride yes its heavy but so what it handles great you can see why the police used them very comfortable go for miles on it i love it to bits my ST1100 i found one with really low mileage 1999 model with 11900 mls on it what about that then and one owner to boot its a great bike get one a mile muncher :)
Bought an 02 reg pan from a dealer last March. I wish I had had a test ride first ! By the time I rode home (50 miles) I was already thinking of the wording of my classified ad. I know everyone thinks there the best thing since sliced bread but the one I had was the worst bike I have EVER rode. Far to heavy in the turn, gutless engine and no character at all !!! Weather protection is great, which is the only thing good I have to say about it but if that's your main reason to buy one then buy a car
I bought a 1990 ST1100 in 1992 at about half retail and only 3,200km on the clock. This bike has been the best long distance ride ever (my other rides were V65 Sabre, FJ600, XS650). I also commute on it. Great city bike but after 22 years of Toronto road work the fairing needs some TLC for rattles.
Apart from being classed as an old man's bike, they're brilliant. No different solo than two up. Loads of grunt. Great weather protection. Don't ever drop it. Mines been knocked over twice, no damage though, those crash protectors do a good job, but the bike's so heavy it takes two to pick it up.
I was converted to the St1100 after riding my mates for 2000 miles in France and they really are a very good touring bike economical as any other excellent build quality and super comfy solo, two up fully loaded it just don't matter. Replace the tin exhaust box with a s/steel one change the oil and filters regularly and you will have a bike that will last years. BUT DON'T BE CONFUSED THIS IS THE ST1100 I am talking about NOT the newer ST1300 that is rubbish by comparison DO NOT BUY ONE pick up a good 1100 and you won't be disapointed.
I Bought my 1998 non abs model in june 2007 with 10k on the clock yes 10k it cost me £3750 which was quite expensive but with 8 service stamps in the book it has been well looked after & garaged all its days.On riding it 200 yds down the road i was really disapointed with the wind noise fron the 16" standard fairing needless to say its the first thing i changed i have now got a 20" screen fitted but still getting loads of wind noise so i am changing it again to a 24" so hopefully that will sort the problem out.other than that its been superb & really looks the part it will keep up with most bikes on the road if you open it up,Has a great riding posistion & god for long distance riding gives you around the 200 per tank of fuel insurance it reasnable too So if your looking for a great all rounder that will hold its money better than anything else BUY one
Ive owned my Pan since 2001 when i purchased it new yes it is heavy but its a man`s bike after all. I have done 130mph in Germany two up with more to spare unbustable motor loads of grunt making really lazy riding. Will blow 600 sports bikes off as it corners on rails. well over 40 mpg tank capacity over 6 gallon. The build quality is excellent except for mild steel collector, once replaced with stainless steel you can forget it. Bridgestone BT020 tyres give really good grip rear lasts 6k and front 8k. Brakes are ok Only synthetic oil due to wet clutch Bike will cover 200,000 miles easily with only few parts wearing out cam belt change 80k Thats why they keep their price. Will i ever sell it NO I WONT Loads of accessories to fit good weather protection use it all year round. Buy one you will not regret it.
i only bought one because i had a 130 mile commute everyday. i hate everything the pan european "stands for" IN BIKING but i cant fault it in ANYWAY THE THING goes round corners in a way a steel framed 280kg motorcycle should not... if big miles are your thing NOTHING comes close
Keeps you dry even in terrible weather, serious grunt in the engine, comfy enough for all day riding, you quickly forget the size and weight, not cheap to buy or put fuel in.
I've had my X-reg ABS/TCS Pan for 18 months or so, apart from a couple of silencers, no probs. Took a while to get confidence, but two new BT020's transformed the handling; you can lean at improbable angles, at least in the dry. Keeping up with most sports bikes is possible as long as you plan your corners; it's not really chuckable, but handles very well for a big bike. The anti-dive forks work well, brakes are capable, the linked system is not obvious in operation. Economy and comfort ? 300+ miles to a tank, then you might want to stretch your legs. If you are looking to buy, like all faired bikes, the plastic can hide a lot, most don't get cleaned behind, so have a good look. Parts are expensive, a full exhaust is several hundred £'s, as is an ABS unit. Pans tend not to get thrashed, so last a long time if they get regular oil changes. Get one while you still can !
Had a 2000 ABS Pan 2 years now, 42K miles, no problems except exhaust corrosion. Big bucks... If you're buying one, get down on the ground with a torch and have a good look! Take the panniers off. Also check the radiator, alloy can corrode under the paint. Big bucks... No mistake, a heavy bike, takes a while to master. Most Pans get dropped at a standstill, usually no damage except £12 crash bar cover. Avoid gravel car parks! Once moving, a peach to ride, if well ridden easily stays with sporty stuff on country roads, but keep your wits about you, sudden tight bends remind you you're on a third of a ton..! 40 mpg typical. Oh, and did I mention it was heavy?
Bought with 500 miles on the clock in 1990, px'ing a VFR for approx. £4200. I reckon its still worth £2000, so that is a depreciation of about £138 per year. By common consensus within the motorcycling fraternity, the ST1100 has turned out to be a fabulous motorcycle, but in 1990, if you listened to the pundits, i.e. motorcycle journalists, it might have seemed a bit of a punt, being slated as 'too heavy and ponderous'. Time has proven the ST1100, amongst both the private and public sectors of the motorcycle market. I fully expect to still be riding my ST1100 in ten years time, unless Honda or another manufacturer manage to improve upon the ST1100 Pan, in all areas. It should be easy as the ST1100 was designed in the late 1980's but they have'nt managed it yet. In my opinion, the ST1100 model is faithful to the ideals of Soichiro Honda. Strengths: Total reliability, low maintenance, reasonable performance, astounding 'survivability'. Weaknesses: The exhaust collector box. Thats it.
After comeing into some handy needed cash. I thought go get myself an other bike so sold the old bmw k100rs after lots off happy miles and got a zzr1300 only to meet with a young girly comeing the wrong way down the a406 me and the bike went under her car and walked away lucky or wot?? Was left with a lot off pain so sport bike days were over at 54 years old in come the pan and cant find any thing wrong with it 100 out of 100 for the beasty love it and the new 1300 looks good to slurp slurp. Strengths: The pan handles two up and lots of luggage easy and still handles good. Weaknesses: Exhaust box bit dear to replace .
The bike is the best bike ive ever owned and as they dont make them anymore im going to keep it. Ive never had any mechanical problems at all, only things ive change in 12k are the tyres to Bridgestone 020`s rear pads, oil and filter they are that reliable. Strengths: The ease of touring two up cornering stability and that grunty motor sports bikes have problems in bends keeping up Fact. Tank range 270 miles, comfort lugage resale price. Weaknesses: There isnt any unless you say its a bit heavy but its a tourer.
This bike is truly amazing, would buy another one now if I could afford to. Bought 3yrs old with 40,000mls, did 5000 in 6 months. Had to sell mine due to mariage and house move.(What was I doing) 20 mile round trip daily comute in all weathers not a problem, it had heated grips(godsend)It was supremely comfortable even 2 up and loaded, never a lack of power or grunt, and the handling was flawless once used to weight. By the way I am 26yrs old and sold it 18 months ago. You can stop laughing now.(Not that I care) Strengths: The best things were its ability to keep suprising you in its ability. The handling suprised me most, it was so stable. It didn't matter how hard you counter steered it just turned and asked for more. Weaknesses: The only weaknesses I can think of are that I found the bars to low (STX 1300 are better)this may just be a personal thing as I have quite short arms. Her indoors aslo complained of the wind beating her to death at speeds in excess of 85mph on the back, but no-one else I spoke to said the same?